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Re:Massive increase to Onedrive storage plans by aw3c2 on Monday June 23, 2014 @02:48PM (#7933700)
Child porn is a "everything must be done against it" topic and while that is what should be done, it means that it makes a perfect "no arguments against it" argument for snooping.

But it is my belief that file hosters have a legal and moral obligation not to know what they are hosting for their customers. It is not the obligation of a host to look at a customer's files and decide what is ok and what is not. It is the same thing with Tor nodes or if you decide to encrypt files. I actually think that any online sync host like this or like Dropbox should not have any chance of knowing what I store with them. That's my private business and there is zero reason for them to know, is there?

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Re:Massive increase to Onedrive storage plans by gtirloni on Monday June 23, 2014 @03:18PM (#7933921)
Your belief doesn't have any grounds on reality and/or current laws. Once notified of child pornography, Microsoft cannot keep that content stored in its network. Period. Otherwise the next request they will get from a judge is to close the service down.

I actually think that any online sync host like this or like Dropbox should not have any chance of knowing what I store with them

Cryptography is readily available to anyone who cares to use it.

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Re:Massive increase to Onedrive storage plans by dublinben on Monday June 23, 2014 @03:36PM (#7934070)
1. It doesn't sound like anyone is "notifying" Microsoft in any way. They're almost certainly just using the NCMEC hash set (which they helped develop) to identify known images.

2. You ought to provide some kind of legal citation for your claim that a judge can order a service like Onedrive to shut down after just two allegations of illegal content.

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Re:Massive increase to Onedrive storage plans by aw3c2 on Tuesday June 24, 2014 @06:13AM (#7936917)
Once notified! I never disagreed with that, I fully agree with it.

End-to-end cryptography should be the standard.

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Re:Massive increase to Onedrive storage plans by tomjen3 on Tuesday June 24, 2014 @03:30PM (#7939964)
>Cryptography is readily available to anyone who cares to use it.

Really? It was my understanding that True crypt was done for and I don't know of any other similar software that is open source (ie trust worthy).

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Re:Massive increase to Onedrive storage plans by gtirloni on Wednesday June 25, 2014 @05:52AM (#7942998)
Truecrypt is far from done. But wouldn't be the fact that it's open source be enough for you to deem it trust worthy? Of course not, as recent events have demonstrated.

https://www.grc.com/misc/truecrypt/truecrypt.htm

Although we all have reason to believe every single encryption tool out there is compromised, where does that leave us? Paralyzed. IMHO, we won't have 100% trustworthy software ever and we're better off using what we have then not using anything at all. Remember, in this thread we're talking about our privacy, not some top-secret project for which developing a encryption tool from scratch would be affordable (that'd be cool though).

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Re:Massive increase to Onedrive storage plans by emn13 on Monday June 23, 2014 @03:04PM (#7933807)
Well, there might actually be value in knowing the content for e.g. searching, analysis, compression, deduplication, and advertising purposes. I'm not terribly in favor of exploiting these uses, but there certainly are conceivable reasons for the online service to examine the content of the stored files.
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