Re:Pierre Sprey on the F-35 [video]
by greedo on Tuesday June 17, 2014 @05:16PM
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No, a drone can take off and land. Show me a SAM that can fly back to its launcher and be used at a later date.
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Re:Pierre Sprey on the F-35 [video]
by stcredzero on Tuesday June 17, 2014 @05:25PM
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I bet we could get a cruise missile to "land" on a runway. The only catch is that it usually does this concurrently with a planned rapid disassembly.
That's the "essentially" part. The key bit here is "cheap counter to the F-35 you can mass-produce in the hundreds or thousands for every F-35 you'll face".
Nothing says you can't have a few dozen/hundred drones with SAMs, either.
But you can't handwave away the difference without understanding how it would affect the cost of your "cheap counter to the F-35." Do you know how much an AIM-120 costs? How much it weighs? How much reinforcement the wing structure of a drone would require to carry, launch and land with this weaponry?
> AIM-120 cost
$300k - $400k
> How much it weighs?
152 kg
> How much reinforcement the wing structure of a drone would require to carry, launch and land with this weaponry?
According to General Atomics;
"With a 1,500 lb (680 kg) payload, its wings are 'more than sufficient' to mount larger air-to-air or air-to-surface missiles."
The last quote is for the Reaper, a new version of the Predator that costs 4x as much. $16m is much cheaper than a fighter jet, but when you start deploying them in swarms of 20:1 ratios, the numbers don't work.
You're flailing around moving the goalposts at this point. The Predator/Reaper drones are more generalist platforms than you'd need for a disposable drone built around an air to air missile.
You cannot just blindly put missiles on a drone without any radars or sensors. The current Predator platform should be how much it would cost...minimum.
Well, no. Originally drones could not land. That's a modern feature.