Swift – observations from Rust’s original designer

Re:Swift – observations from Rust’s original designer by jcurbo on Monday June 02, 2014 @09:42PM (#7837675)

You only have to be a paid developer to get the beta of XCode; once it comes out of beta, it'll be available on the Mac App Store for free.

That said, it'd be nice to see Swift get open sourced at some point.

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Re:Swift – observations from Rust’s original designer by pdpi on Tuesday June 03, 2014 @05:20AM (#7838923)

I'm afraid that it's going to be tied too tightly to the Cocoa Runtime to make opening the language up feasible without also opening Cocoa up.

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Re:Swift – observations from Rust’s original designer by chrisdevereux on Tuesday June 03, 2014 @07:48AM (#7839482)

You're thinking of the Objective-C runtime, which in fact is opensource: http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/objc4/objc4-551.1

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Re:Swift – observations from Rust’s original designer by tcard on Tuesday June 03, 2014 @06:09AM (#7839122)

I don't think so. It seems to me that they did a good job on the interface between Objective-C and Swift, so one could perfectly live without the other. Objective-C constructs are exposed as native Swift constructs.

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Re:Swift – observations from Rust’s original designer by manojlds on Tuesday June 03, 2014 @10:57AM (#7840559)

C# is "open source", but the CLR is not.

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Re:Swift – observations from Rust’s original designer by rjsw on Tuesday June 03, 2014 @06:55AM (#7839259)

If they open sourced the compiler then maybe you could link against GNUstep on other platforms.

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Re:Swift – observations from Rust’s original designer by koko775 on Tuesday June 03, 2014 @10:43AM (#7840466)

That's their hope - after 1.0, they want to open-source it.

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