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Re:Why cyclists should be able to roll through stop signs, r... by shkkmo on Thursday May 15, 2014 @07:56PM (#7753011)
> ...governed by the exact same laws as vehicles. No exceptions.

So I should be able to ride my bike on the highway?

> Bicycles are part of a larger system and that system runs on expectations.

True, but the current disregard to those laws means that expected behavior is inconsistent with the behavior mandated by laws.

> Adding a new class of movement rules for bicycles which are sharing lanes with cars makes this system much more difficult to predict and anticipate for everyone.

Bikes already move and behave differently, just due to mechanics and physics. Bringing expectations in line with this and normalizing behavior INCREASES predictability.

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Re:Why cyclists should be able to roll through stop signs, r... by saurik on Thursday May 15, 2014 @08:02PM (#7753035)
> So I should be able to ride my bike on the highway?

FWIW, if your car is not capable of traveling at the "speed minimum" (typically 10-15 miles below the speed limit on a highway; though I guess some states don't have this concept), then it also is not allowed on the highway.

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Re:Why cyclists should be able to roll through stop signs, r... by justinreeves on Thursday May 15, 2014 @08:02PM (#7753034)
> So I should be able to ride my bike on the highway.

You can't drive a car at 20mph on the highway either.

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Re:Why cyclists should be able to roll through stop signs, r... by minikomi on Thursday May 15, 2014 @10:02PM (#7753361)
OK less extreme.. I should be able to ride in the middle of the road, and only overtaken where it's safe as indicated by a broken-line.
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Re:Why cyclists should be able to roll through stop signs, r... by shkkmo on Thursday May 15, 2014 @11:43PM (#7753622)
Umm... you can. You are welcome to ride in the middle of your lane and you should only be passed where legally allowed.
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Re:Why cyclists should be able to roll through stop signs, r... by shkkmo on Thursday May 15, 2014 @08:04PM (#7753045)
You can't ride a bike on a highway at any speed.

Edit: To be clear, I intending to point out the ridiculousness of this language:

> exact same laws as vehicles. No exceptions.

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Re:Why cyclists should be able to roll through stop signs, r... by cag_ii on Thursday May 15, 2014 @08:36PM (#7753146)
There are vehicles which are not permitted on the highway.
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Re:Why cyclists should be able to roll through stop signs, r... by shkkmo on Thursday May 15, 2014 @09:54PM (#7753345)
Which is why I think it is silly to insist that bicyclists for the EXACT same rules of the road as drivers with NO EXCEPTIONS.

There are different rules of the road for Semis, for cars pulling trailers, for motorcycles, for tractors, for public transit.

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