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Re:Where did all the developers go? by UK-AL on Tuesday May 13, 2014 @12:07PM (#7738843)
Agile only really works for teams of 3-7. It's defiantly not a methodology for larger teams.

There are things for scaled up Agile development such as SAFe, but it's really a hack.

Re:Where did all the developers go? by dragonwriter on Tuesday May 13, 2014 @12:30PM (#7738986)
> Agile only really works for teams of 3-7.

The usual rule of thumb is that "atomic" teams should be 5-9 members (often expressed as 7 plus-or-minus 2), with larger groups as teams-of-teams. Larger teams simply don't work as single teams, and there's centuries of experience supporting that in pretty much every field everywhere.

Re:Where did all the developers go? by AnimalMuppet on Tuesday May 13, 2014 @01:14PM (#7739297)
I once worked on an XP team of 30. It worked. We had people who specialized in some areas of the code, but we worked hard on avoiding silos.
Re:Where did all the developers go? by ferentchak on Tuesday May 13, 2014 @12:22PM (#7738936)
Most of the research says agile teams of 7+-2 are best. At my work we have been trying to look at the differences that team size makes in software output.

SAFe is interesting because it can help show large companies understand the value to using XP practices. Crazy ideas like unit testing your code.

Re:Where did all the developers go? by jdlshore on Tuesday May 13, 2014 @01:29PM (#7739410)
I think you're mistaking "common wisdom" for research. A lot of people like to say 7 +/- 2, but as I understand it, that number comes from studies of short-term memory. (It's why phone numbers in the US are 7 digits.) Research of teams (not specific to Agile) puts the maximum effective size closer to 12, and the maximum size of a "tribe" around 150-200.

My own experience is that 12 people works great for an agile team, with 6-8 of them being programmers. If you're not using pair programming, cut those numbers in half.

Re:Where did all the developers go? by ferentchak on Tuesday May 13, 2014 @03:19PM (#7740064)
Yeah you are right, I asked Larry Maccherone to see if there was prior research about that common belief in the 7 person team and he was not aware of any.

If you are interested in hearing about some of the current research that we are doing about team size you can check into it on this video. I am not sure he is ready to publish his work but this can give you a taste of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Trgz2SAz0k&list=PLSRf1YEPZ7u...