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Re:Why isn’t New Zealand richer and more productive? by sophacles on Friday April 18, 2014 @05:13PM (#7611358)
Be careful with the dissonance between your social circle and "everyone".

(In this case for instance - living in the midwest puts me into contact with a very large number of people who's beliefs align nearly perfectly with the television narrative).

Re:Why isn’t New Zealand richer and more productive? by wyclif on Friday April 18, 2014 @06:35PM (#7611688)
Meh, you lost me. Completely.

One thing you have to remember is that in general, Americans are culturally one of the most generous nations in the world. Broadly speaking, that includes foreign aid and domestic welfare as well as voluntary charity. But at that same time, the US is an industrious nation that prizes hard work. It's a fine line to walk and people fall through the cracks in the system.

Nevertheless, it's extremely uncharitable IMO to suggest that the poor are "hated" in America.

Re:Why isn’t New Zealand richer and more productive? by insuffi on Friday April 18, 2014 @07:19PM (#7611833)
You mean the same country where the word "social" is used as a slur? Or where if somebody receives welfare they are looked down upon and called lazy?[0]

Broadly speaking, no, foreign aid given by the US is barely top 30 per capita.

[0] http://www.prb.org/Publications/Articles/2002/AmericanAttitu...

Re:Why isn’t New Zealand richer and more productive? by Retric on Friday April 18, 2014 @09:12PM (#7612140)
As a % of GDP it's not actually that high.

US ranks #21 in Foreign aid and is 1/5 Sweden.

http://www.statisticbrain.com/countries-that-give-the-most-i...

Welfare # GDP US: 14.8 Sweden: 28.9

Giving we are #1 in monitary donations but it's only 1.85% of GDP in the US. http://www.forbes.com/2008/12/24/america-philanthropy-income... "Based on volunteerism alone, the Netherlands comes first, followed by Sweden and then the U.S."

Re:Why isn’t New Zealand richer and more productive? by wyclif on Saturday April 19, 2014 @12:19AM (#7612584)
Still doesn't mean the poor are "hated", and it's still a vast amount of aid money.