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Re:Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12) by kylec on Thursday April 17, 2014 @02:06PM (#7605223)
This is really disappointing. I have been a paying Loom member since shortly after the service was released, it's too bad it wasn't enough to keep it an independent company. After DivvyShot, Everpix, Snapjoy, and now Loom, I don't think I can trust another photo management startup again.
Re:Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12) by phillmv on Thursday April 17, 2014 @02:14PM (#7605290)
I wonder if we'll start seeing startup fatigue. Then again, a company just failing must be vastly more common.

I've noticed that these days I avoid all free services and, when the information is available to me, will pick the lifestyle over the vc backed company.

Re:Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12) by calinet6 on Thursday April 17, 2014 @03:12PM (#7605683)
This is a huge problem with SAAS in general. The ephemerality not only of our data, but of the entire service, is highly disturbing.

Next time I buy a tool, I'm going to look for something I can hold in my hand (metaphorically speaking), and use until I decide not to.

Re:Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12) by zheshishei on Thursday April 17, 2014 @04:46PM (#7606206)
I guess it's time to go back to standalone desktop apps?
Re:Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12) by bentcorner on Thursday April 17, 2014 @05:51PM (#7606665)
Selfhosting isn't out of the question.

Maybe there's a middle ground? If someone provided me with a VPS but made it really easy to self-host applications from a curated list, I'd be all over that.

Re:Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12) by calinet6 on Friday April 18, 2014 @11:28PM (#7612477)
Self-hosted auto-updated service nodes, that run on your own cloud-connected server. All your data, your encryption, your permissions, everything.

Then you connect to your services via any thin client (just thumbprint on any terminal anywhere and you're logged in). Any screen, any device, anywhere.

Someday.

Re:Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12) by mpyne on Thursday April 17, 2014 @05:30PM (#7606526)
Some of us never left...
Re:Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12) by 6cxs2hd6 on Thursday April 17, 2014 @05:52PM (#7606675)
It's a problem with unnecessarily monolithic SaaS, where everyone reinvents e.g. the storage piece of it.

You should be able to tell XYZ service to work with your photos as stored on Amazon S3. Or stored on, what's that other company, starts with a D...?

Re:Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12) by slaven on Thursday April 17, 2014 @04:06PM (#7605960)
And the on-boarding process was so painful - it took me weeks to load up ALL my photos onto Everpix. After they failed, I signed up with Loom and again it took over a month for it all to upload. I feel sad as I don't envy the next startup that tries to "solve" this very real problem.
Re:Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12) by ukd1 on Thursday April 17, 2014 @07:17PM (#7607125)
I think they're going to migrate you seamlessly to dropbox, so no worries there.
Re:Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12) by sp332 on Friday April 18, 2014 @10:47AM (#7609333)
It doesn't look very seamless. If you had a Loom account, you don't automatically get a Dropbox account. You have to make a dropbox account and then link the account to "import" your photos. I guess you can put your photos into Dropbox's "Carousel" but none of this happens automatically.
Re:Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12) by ukd1 on Friday April 18, 2014 @11:12AM (#7609464)
I've actually just done it - it was seemless (though, as you mentioned I had a dropbox account). I clicked the link, read the page, signed in to loom and then authed loom->dropbox. Process started instantly and photos started showing up! Plus now I have 0.5T on dropbox.

It's by far the cleanest sunset I've ever used.

Re:Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12) by TeMPOraL on Friday April 18, 2014 @03:30AM (#7608292)
We keep being taught the same lesson, day after day, and we never learn, but I think it's time to put this explicitly.

Startups like this are lying to us, straight in the face. Simple as that. And we believe the bullshit they say every time. It's written so almost explicitly in the startup "literature". Growth. They are not building real products that are supposed to solve problems for people, they build make-believe products that are supposed to lure people in. Because that's how you prove your worth these days - by number of users you can get on board.

I apologize if I hurt someone who doesn't start the company just in order to bullshit his/her way to acquihire year or two later. Maybe you're honestly building a real product to solve real problems and you actually care about your users. But then again, to quote Nick Fury, "things like this give me trust issues".

I'm still waiting for someone to solve the "punching through the Internet" problem. This way I could express what I really feel, as a user, about taking "a toast" for the "next chapter" of your "immensely exciting journey".

Re:Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12) by bjeanes on Thursday April 17, 2014 @02:32PM (#7605399)
Really loving being on Picturelife. Last one (that I like) standing — at least for now.
Re:Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12) by salberts on Thursday April 17, 2014 @02:39PM (#7605447)
100%. Photos are here to stay while most startups are not. As much as I hate saying it,being a start-up founder myself, I'd go for Google, Yahoo, Amazon or a more backup-oriented startup.
Re:Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12) by pearjuice on Thursday April 17, 2014 @03:11PM (#7605681)
Exposure.co looks pretty good. However, looking at the history of the projects ran by the creators you might be in for a bumpy surprise...

At least the service its prices are sustainable. Or premium.

Re:Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12) by anon808 on Thursday April 17, 2014 @04:16PM (#7606013)
exposure.co is an elepath product, elepath is run by Jake Lodwick who wrote http://pando.com/2013/04/02/an-acquisition-is-always-a-failu...

not saying jake won't take the money and run if offered it, or shut down exposure, but given that it looks like he's fairly comfortable after collegehumor and his investment in tumblr, chances are lower that he's looking to offload exposure/elepath. but who knows.

Re:Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12) by mason240 on Thursday April 17, 2014 @04:35PM (#7606144)
I have been looking for a good open source, Picasa type photo management platform, unfortunately I haven't been about to find any good ones.
Re:Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12) by jmnicolas on Friday April 18, 2014 @09:40AM (#7609082)
You pay the price for being an early adopter. I never even heard of Loom before this news ...