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Re:Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker by cortesoft on Monday March 03, 2014 @07:01PM (#7337509)
60 seconds to clean isn't nothing. Changing the keurig pods takes less than 3 seconds.

It might make me lazy, but every second I am not cleaning my coffee device I can be doing something else.

Re:Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker by mikegreco on Monday March 03, 2014 @08:08PM (#7337786)
If optimizing 57 seconds of your day makes such a drastic difference, you are doing a vast number of things wrong.
Re:Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker by adventured on Monday March 03, 2014 @08:34PM (#7337895)
I don't think the parent implied it was drastic.

How does it make sense to project that calculation onto another person to begin with? Their time is not yours, and every person values their time differently. It means your statement of them doing a vast number of things wrong must inherently be false, because there is no objective "wrong" there.

Re:Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker by pizza234 on Tuesday March 04, 2014 @03:22AM (#7339078)
The comment is certainly a bit overgeneralized, but it raises some important points.

I've been a "time-peeler" for a large part of my life, and when I stopped being such, I became way more productive. This happened because I started to waste less and less time on things which didn't really matter.

In certain cultures where most of the people watches TV, for hours every day (in average), then you start to see what's wrong with saving 57 seconds.

In addition to that, somebody pointed that the structure is incredibly wasteful. For some reason, there's this widespread vision of sustainability where the responsibility is somebody else's. If this is not accepted in simple things at the bottom, where should it starts from?

In this terms, the comments make sense, although of course, it's not possible to say if it applies to a given person.

With these things in mind, while there are no "objective wrongs", in the big perspective, there are objective foolishnesses, to say the least.

Re:Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker by lisper on Monday March 03, 2014 @07:29PM (#7337633)
This. Plus I have yet to see any non-pod-style coffee machine that can competently make one cup at a time.
Re:Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker by nl on Monday March 03, 2014 @10:30PM (#7338270)
I have the previous version of the Delongi Primadonna[1]. Fully automatic - you attache the milk frother, pour some beans in, it grinds them and makes the coffee.

Previously I had the Nespresso Lattissima Premium[2] (the top-of-the line pod machine). I liked the Nespresso coffee fine, but the Primadonna makes better coffee and is no more trouble to use (It's also twice the price...).

The clean up is exactly the same for both machines - you press a button to run steam though the milk frother, detach it and put it in the refrigerator. You press the "rinse" button and it runs water through the coffee system to clean that.

~Once a week you empty the grounds container or the empty pods container.

The one trick is to only put as many beans as you a planning on using immediatly in the bean dispenser. It can take a lot more, but as they get exposed for longer they get more bitter.

[1] http://www.delonghi.com/en-AU/products/coffee/coffee-makers/...

[2] http://www.delonghi.com/en-AU/products/coffee/coffee-makers/...

Re:Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker by not-gro-tsen on Monday March 03, 2014 @07:50PM (#7337707)
I have a manual grinder and an Aeropress. Making one cup at a time is easy, and the taste is superior to pod-style coffee in my opinion.

The time I spend grinding the coffee is part of the enjoyment.

Re:Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker by sk5t on Monday March 03, 2014 @11:22PM (#7338437)
I just got an Aeropress and it's very nice--smoothest coffee I've ever tasted. Slightly more fiddly preparation compared to a pour-over or press, but worth the effort.
Re:Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker by balls187 on Monday March 03, 2014 @08:07PM (#7337779)
Really?

http://globalassets.starbucks.com/assets/bbbb918e28fa404b836...

I much prefer that machine to the crappy k-cup machines.

Re:Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker by lisper on Monday March 03, 2014 @08:36PM (#7337902)
Hard to tell what machine that is from just a tiny photo.
Re:Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker by balls187 on Monday March 03, 2014 @08:42PM (#7337940)
Soz for the smal shot.

Basically it's a machine with 3 compartments:

Coffee, Decaf Hot Chocolate

And you can push a button, it grinds, and outputs your cup.

I prefer it vastly to the k-cups.

Re:Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker by lisper on Monday March 03, 2014 @08:36PM (#7337899)
Never heard of the aeropress before. Will have to try it. Thanks for the tip!
Re:Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker by freerobby on Monday March 03, 2014 @10:35PM (#7338290)
Which ones have you tried? Any Jura machine will do the job and produce better, fresher coffee than a pre-ground pod. The upfront cost is substantially more, however; they start at about $800.
Re:Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker by lostlogin on Tuesday March 04, 2014 @04:45AM (#7339292)
what's the freshest you can have your coffee? If a could have my way (which frequently I can) I'd always have 1-2 day old beans. I'd take beans still warm from roasting over those older than 3-4.
Re:Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker by nl on Monday March 03, 2014 @10:33PM (#7338282)
Automatic coffee machines exist and take no longer than pod machines to make the coffee or to clean up.

They do tend to be more expensive though.

Re:Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker by ssharp on Monday March 03, 2014 @08:15PM (#7337825)
It's less than 60 to clean and fill with water. The water takes longer than the cleaning. Really, if I want to be lazy and dump the grounds in the sink disposal, it would take about 10 seconds to clean.
Re:Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker by shiven on Tuesday March 04, 2014 @06:15AM (#7339572)
... but every second I am not cleaning my coffee device I can be doing something else.

Like, picking your nose?