Servo: Inside Mozilla's mission to reinvent the web browser

Re:Servo: Inside Mozilla's mission to reinvent the web browser by whyme on Tuesday February 25, 2014 @05:42PM (#7301209)

I think you're making a great number of assumptions.

There's no reason we can't keep backward compatibility as long as it's desired.

No one is "throwing away the web", what ever that even means.

We can always put the current stuff in a nice museum and pay tribute to the technological importance it achieved during the evolution of the web! vs an evolution of any seriously flawed specific piece of technology.

Also, this really is not a "want", rather the real problems are creating real needs.

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Re:Servo: Inside Mozilla's mission to reinvent the web browser by pcwalton on Tuesday February 25, 2014 @05:46PM (#7301250)

> There's no reason we can't keep backward comparability as long as it's desired.

That is exactly what Servo is doing.

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Re:Servo: Inside Mozilla's mission to reinvent the web browser by TheZenPsycho on Tuesday February 25, 2014 @05:47PM (#7301251)

"I would have thought ditching HTML, the box model, CSS and JavaScript to be a more important objective that should come sooner than this. Or another way to put this would be: Wouldn't development efficiency/simplicity be more important than running the current junk in parallel?"

Does "ditch" and "junk" mean something other than the common usages of these terms to you? The only assumption I'm making is that you're writing in english.

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Re:Servo: Inside Mozilla's mission to reinvent the web browser by whyme on Tuesday February 25, 2014 @05:53PM (#7301285)

One mans junk is another mans treasure. Looks like you're offended.

I was suggesting to ditch specific technologies, not the "web" as you put it. So it's... what the web means... That I referred to.

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Re:Servo: Inside Mozilla's mission to reinvent the web browser by sehr on Tuesday February 25, 2014 @06:19PM (#7301449)

The web is made of these technologies.

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Re:Servo: Inside Mozilla's mission to reinvent the web browser by whyme on Tuesday February 25, 2014 @07:57PM (#7301982)

But not limited to them.

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Re:Servo: Inside Mozilla's mission to reinvent the web browser by TheZenPsycho on Tuesday February 25, 2014 @08:37PM (#7302155)

Right. You can use xhtml 2.0, you can use flash. you can use java applets. you can use ios apps. you can use android apps. You can use director. you can use axr. you can use activex. you can even use xaml, xul or silverlight.

Go on. Use them. I dare you. See how long you last.

or invent your own platform and see how quickly everyone switches over to it. I'm sure the only thing stopping this from happening is nobody has tried. Sure!

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Re:Servo: Inside Mozilla's mission to reinvent the web browser by bionsuba on Wednesday February 26, 2014 @01:14AM (#7303272)

Why are you taking this so personally? When centering a div on vertically and horizontally is such a hassle, there can definitively be some improvements in the system. HTML lacks many semantics that would cut down on div.content or .main or any number of similar classes. CSS lacks any sort of inherit structure (like SCSS gives or taking it further with SMACSS) and quickly can become a huge mess. JS is still a terrible language with no support for basic things classes or importing.

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Re:Servo: Inside Mozilla's mission to reinvent the web browser by robin_reala on Wednesday February 26, 2014 @07:49AM (#7304592)

HTML lacks many semantics that would cut down on div.content

<section> and <article> are new semantic containers for content.

or .main or any number of similar classes.

<main>?

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Re:Servo: Inside Mozilla's mission to reinvent the web browser by TheZenPsycho on Wednesday February 26, 2014 @03:18AM (#7303669)

why are you taking it so personally? why are you reading such things in? it's totally irrelevant.

I didn't say that html/css/doesn't need improvement. that's changing the subject. The question is: why do the people here so eager to "ditch" (as in totally discard) html/css/js.

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Re:Servo: Inside Mozilla's mission to reinvent the web browser by sanxiyn on Wednesday February 26, 2014 @02:24AM (#7303501)

ES6 will have classes and modules.

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Re:Servo: Inside Mozilla's mission to reinvent the web browser by CmonDev on Wednesday February 26, 2014 @09:06AM (#7304934)

Is it pushed to 2020 now or just until 2015? If the weak typing is still there it's an loosely-interpretable text rather than a language anyway.

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