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Re:Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus ... by sveme on Wednesday February 19, 2014 @05:45PM (#7267037)
As others said before, it's most likely a defensive move, against other interested parties but also against Whatsapp itself. I don't use and thoroughly dislike Facebook but I'm using Whatsapp groups daily with my closest friends and my climbing mates. In that sense Whatsapp has started to move beyond SMS and towards the social network market.

With such a large user base and their established mobile presence it would have been fairly easy to challenge Facebook in the social network field, so Zuckerberg might have seen that coming as well. In that light the announcement that Whatsapp will basically stay the same actually makes sense - it will stay the same and will not develop those features that could have threatened Facebook in the long term.

Well, I already sent some messages to my friends to move on to threema, which has the added benefit of having encrypted messaging and being located in Switzerland.

Re:Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus ... by amirmc on Wednesday February 19, 2014 @05:53PM (#7267120)
> "... it will stay the same and will not develop those features that could have threatened Facebook in the long term."

That's fascinating and completely believable. The question will be can FB move those people to their own platform in the future and quietly retire Whatsapp in the future.

It's interesting that the CEO of Whatsapp is joining the FB board since that will affect the direction both products take.

Re:Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus ... by dba7dba on Wednesday February 19, 2014 @06:01PM (#7267191)
CEO of Whatsapp prided on not listening in private conversation or collecting personal data, which Facebook ACTIVELY does.
Re:Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus ... by yapcguy on Wednesday February 19, 2014 @06:52PM (#7267560)
The CEO just had a higher price than most other people.

To get $16bn cash from Facebook is hilarious.

Next time a start-up says they won't pay you market rate because of x, y, and z just walk away and laugh. For the sake of a few thousand dollars in wages, you could make them billions.

Don't work for cheap bastards. Funny how engineers are supposed to sacrifice yet we never see a lawyer or accountant charge below market rates, and their work can save businesses millions as well as jail-time.

Re:Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus ... by kamaal on Wednesday February 19, 2014 @11:24PM (#7268873)
I now feel like a jack ass for working at a MegaCorp. To be working like a donkey under a glorified email router paid 3x more than me for doing toothbrush factory era supervisors role.

And yes I do agree with you. I recently rejected a offer from a start up for offering 50% below market rate.

Seems like I made a smart decision.

Re:Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus ... by curun1r on Wednesday February 19, 2014 @07:19PM (#7267762)
WhatsApp is actually the reason why people accept less than market rate from startups. No WhatsApp employee who's been there more than a year will ever need to work again once he/she survives the "golden handcuffs" period.
Re:Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus ... by yapcguy on Wednesday February 19, 2014 @08:01PM (#7268010)
I'm sure that's what Zynga employees thought too. Sure, accept less than your market rate, but there are lots of trapdoors before the cash ends up in your bank account.
Re:Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus ... by michaelmior on Wednesday February 19, 2014 @08:08PM (#7268055)
I think it's quite rare that any individual employee (probably excluding founders) is responsible for a significant percentage of the value of a company.
Re:Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus ... by DerpDerpDerp on Wednesday February 19, 2014 @09:12PM (#7268341)
I mean, if you assume only 10% of that value is going to employees, then you need only half a percent (0.5%) of that to get a $800k bonus.

If you've only been there 2-3 years, that's a substantial bonus that pushes your pay above market rate.

Re:Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus ... by harryh on Wednesday February 19, 2014 @11:18PM (#7268844)
You dropped a zero.

16B * 10% * .5% = 8 Million

Re:Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus ... by DerpDerpDerp on Thursday February 20, 2014 @04:56PM (#7273927)
You are correct; I had actually meant 0.05%.
Re:Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus ... by mkhalil on Thursday February 20, 2014 @12:06AM (#7268998)
And they only have 55 employees...
Re:Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus ... by timfrietas on Wednesday February 19, 2014 @11:57PM (#7268974)
Only the first few engineers get that kind of equity nowadays.
Re:Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus ... by United857 on Thursday February 20, 2014 @03:05PM (#7273202)
What's remarkable is that they've built up a strong engineering team without very much media attention in Silicon Valley to cultivate a "hot startup everyone wants to work for" image.

The opposite of Facebook, Google, Twitter, Dropbox, Palantir, etc...