News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus ... by dba7dba on Wednesday February 19, 2014 @06:01PM (#7267191)
CEO of Whatsapp prided on not listening in private conversation or collecting personal data, which Facebook ACTIVELY does.
Re:Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus ... by yapcguy on Wednesday February 19, 2014 @06:52PM (#7267560)
The CEO just had a higher price than most other people.

To get $16bn cash from Facebook is hilarious.

Next time a start-up says they won't pay you market rate because of x, y, and z just walk away and laugh. For the sake of a few thousand dollars in wages, you could make them billions.

Don't work for cheap bastards. Funny how engineers are supposed to sacrifice yet we never see a lawyer or accountant charge below market rates, and their work can save businesses millions as well as jail-time.

Re:Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus ... by kamaal on Wednesday February 19, 2014 @11:24PM (#7268873)
I now feel like a jack ass for working at a MegaCorp. To be working like a donkey under a glorified email router paid 3x more than me for doing toothbrush factory era supervisors role.

And yes I do agree with you. I recently rejected a offer from a start up for offering 50% below market rate.

Seems like I made a smart decision.

Re:Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus ... by curun1r on Wednesday February 19, 2014 @07:19PM (#7267762)
WhatsApp is actually the reason why people accept less than market rate from startups. No WhatsApp employee who's been there more than a year will ever need to work again once he/she survives the "golden handcuffs" period.
Re:Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus ... by yapcguy on Wednesday February 19, 2014 @08:01PM (#7268010)
I'm sure that's what Zynga employees thought too. Sure, accept less than your market rate, but there are lots of trapdoors before the cash ends up in your bank account.
Re:Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus ... by michaelmior on Wednesday February 19, 2014 @08:08PM (#7268055)
I think it's quite rare that any individual employee (probably excluding founders) is responsible for a significant percentage of the value of a company.
Re:Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus ... by DerpDerpDerp on Wednesday February 19, 2014 @09:12PM (#7268341)
I mean, if you assume only 10% of that value is going to employees, then you need only half a percent (0.5%) of that to get a $800k bonus.

If you've only been there 2-3 years, that's a substantial bonus that pushes your pay above market rate.

Re:Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus ... by harryh on Wednesday February 19, 2014 @11:18PM (#7268844)
You dropped a zero.

16B * 10% * .5% = 8 Million

Re:Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus ... by DerpDerpDerp on Thursday February 20, 2014 @04:56PM (#7273927)
You are correct; I had actually meant 0.05%.
Re:Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus ... by mkhalil on Thursday February 20, 2014 @12:06AM (#7268998)
And they only have 55 employees...
Re:Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus ... by timfrietas on Wednesday February 19, 2014 @11:57PM (#7268974)
Only the first few engineers get that kind of equity nowadays.
Re:Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus ... by United857 on Thursday February 20, 2014 @03:05PM (#7273202)
What's remarkable is that they've built up a strong engineering team without very much media attention in Silicon Valley to cultivate a "hot startup everyone wants to work for" image.

The opposite of Facebook, Google, Twitter, Dropbox, Palantir, etc...