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Re:My website is being stolen in real time and I don't know ... by pilom on Friday February 14, 2014 @01:48PM (#7240230)
You found out the right first step yourself: Block the source IP address. Sure it will turn into a game of whack-a-mole with them changing their IP but eventually, their customers will get fed up with their downtime.

Second idea: Javascript redirect all of your pages to your own subdomain. Again, its just a step in an arms race, but this would be a little too hard/expensive to take to court. You can win an arms race if you try.

Re:My website is being stolen in real time and I don't know ... by jarrett on Friday February 14, 2014 @02:13PM (#7240394)
If you have a hard time determining their IP, here's a trick that might work. Visit their site with a unique but innocuous-looking path or query that would never be accessed by a normal user. For example:

http://4co.in/?q=1

If the query string is being passed through, which I suspect it is, you can use the query string to easily locate the corresponding entry in your own logs. Or, if the query string isn't being passed through, you can use a path instead:

http://4co.in/q

You probably already thought of this technique. I decided to post it anyway in case you hadn't, or in case anyone else is facing a similar challenge.

Re:My website is being stolen in real time and I don't know ... by intev on Friday February 14, 2014 @03:08PM (#7240702)
Building on this, you could create a script on your server that requests a random url, then greps that url in your logs to figure out the IP and then add that to the banned list. It'll be an auto banning machine!
Re:My website is being stolen in real time and I don't know ... by geolqued on Friday February 14, 2014 @11:06PM (#7242622)
countermove: he works it out and blocks your magic query - query needs to be made from somewhere indistinguishable from normal requests. Changing IP would be best... maybe via tor.

A unique sequence of legitimate requests might be more difficult to for the other side to detect and it won't result in 404s. Could randomise the sequence and each can come from a different IP as long as they were synchronised properly.

Re:My website is being stolen in real time and I don't know ... by jarrett on Monday February 17, 2014 @01:44PM (#7253636)
> countermove: he works it out and blocks your magic query

He very well might. But my estimation of the thief's skills is low. I could be wrong, of course.

> A unique sequence of legitimate requests might be more difficult to for the other side to detect and it won't result in 404s. Could randomise the sequence and each can come from a different IP as long as they were synchronised properly.

That's probably the best bet. A legitimate but very winding path through actual links on the site would work quite well. Given enough steps, it would almost certainly be unique. Because you'd be varying the path each time, the thief would find it hard or impossible to block you.

Re:My website is being stolen in real time and I don't know ... by xauronx on Friday February 14, 2014 @02:15PM (#7240405)
Clever solution! I like it
Re:My website is being stolen in real time and I don't know ... by LanceH on Friday February 14, 2014 @02:34PM (#7240519)
The more subtle response is to feed them bad data until they can't trust you.
Re:My website is being stolen in real time and I don't know ... by mcv on Saturday February 15, 2014 @05:10AM (#7243315)
Bad data would have my vote. It's nasty, subtle, harder to detect, and it would undermine people's trust in the culprit.
Re:My website is being stolen in real time and I don't know ... by joeyjones on Friday February 14, 2014 @01:57PM (#7240282)
For now I have added a news post with a link to the proper site and am debating between blocking the IP or delivering a static page with a link to the proper URL or a javascript redirect to the proper site.
Re:My website is being stolen in real time and I don't know ... by fragmede on Friday February 14, 2014 @02:05PM (#7240345)
I'd do a javascript redirect so you get the ad-views and the users of the site see the new URL.

(for now)

Re:My website is being stolen in real time and I don't know ... by lmg643 on Friday February 14, 2014 @02:33PM (#7240512)
interesting that they didn't change the donation addresses. so if someone uses theirs, and likes it, sends some BTC to them, it will go to you?
Re:My website is being stolen in real time and I don't know ... by joeyjones on Friday February 14, 2014 @03:08PM (#7240698)
Yup, donations should still go to me.
Re:My website is being stolen in real time and I don't know ... by trevelyan on Friday February 14, 2014 @10:18PM (#7242506)
Why do you jump to the assumption that they're malicious then?

Put a few more branding elements into your page design, so that visitors to their site will understand that they're redirecting your data. Then take advantage of the extra publicity that they're giving you.

Re:My website is being stolen in real time and I don't know ... by joeyjones on Friday February 14, 2014 @11:55PM (#7242723)
Having a duplicate site would do a lot of damage to my Google search rankings.
Re:My website is being stolen in real time and I don't know ... by dhoulb on Saturday February 15, 2014 @09:39PM (#7246417)
Not sure if he's stripping it, but serving a 'canonical' meta tag would solve that if he's not,