Re:An expanded comment on Clojure web development
by beat on Thursday February 06, 2014 @04:39PM
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On a related question, what are the good blogs or communities to follow for Clojure web development? I just recently (like within the past two weeks) started using Clojure to rewrite some back end code that was getting pretty gross in Ruby. I'm building a rest api using compujure, and it's been very pleasant, but I know I'm going to need more tools and more help soon.
Re:An expanded comment on Clojure web development
by danenania on Friday February 07, 2014 @03:38AM
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I'd say following the clojure mailing list is the best way to stay current. Most clojure-related blog posts/resources/new libraries get posted there, and the discussion quality is high.
Re:An expanded comment on Clojure web development
by adambard on Thursday February 06, 2014 @01:54PM
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I think it's definitely worth starting with just compojure, or even just ring. I don't know of any other language/library where writing request/response handlers is so approachable ( notwithstanding any commentary on the lisp syntax or functional style); even Flask and Sinatra require a routing layer.
Re:An expanded comment on Clojure web development
by auvrw on Saturday February 08, 2014 @08:30PM
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heh, i wouldn't know anything about ruby. that was flask, of course.
the promise of clojure to me (aside from liking lisp) is similar to that of node: only having to maintain one codebase for both client and server sides.
also, really should say thanks to the author of the original article. returned here today when i realized that korma doesn't create tables and i'll need .... lobos, apparently, which was not mentioned in any of my searches for such a library. why didn't this submission get more upvotes?
Re:An expanded comment on Clojure web development
by erichmond on Thursday February 06, 2014 @02:01PM
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For what it's worth, I've been working on a RESTful API service in clojure, and I've been using Liberator, and been loving it.
The one thing I've really loved about the clojure community is the willingness to take a step back from the problem at hand and the attempt to understand what kind of architecture could address that problem, as opposed to just porting an existing idea/architecture to clojure.
Re:An expanded comment on Clojure web development
by moomin on Thursday February 06, 2014 @02:20PM
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And for the most part, there's a serious commitment to composability. e.g. You can add liberator to your luminus project seamlessly without re-engineering.
Re:An expanded comment on Clojure web development
by VMG on Thursday February 06, 2014 @05:08PM
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I'm interested in a toolchain for cutting down on the editor-edit/server-restart/browser-refresh cycles. Is there any development in the direction of meteor that can help me make development a live experience?
Re:An expanded comment on Clojure web development
by weavejester on Thursday February 06, 2014 @05:18PM
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There are two approaches you can take.
The ring/ring-devel library includes middleware that reloads modified files (ring.middleware.reload), and this is included by default with the Lein-Ring plugin.
The second approach is to run the server from within the REPL, and to have functions to reload modified files and restart the server. There are libraries like Component and Jig that provide a framework for this style of development.
The trend seems to be toward the second, though it requires a little more work than the first option.
Re:An expanded comment on Clojure web development
by billrobertson42 on Friday February 07, 2014 @09:44AM
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The first option is really easy to get started with. It can get a little clunky though when you suddenly need a repl, because now you need a new window (be it terminal or emacs).
Re:An expanded comment on Clojure web development
by jbeja on Thursday February 06, 2014 @04:56PM
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I am just using what the "Web Development with Clojure" book by Dmitri Sotnikov is telling me to use since i am a beginner in Clojure web development. also learning Reagent for the client stuff :).
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/clojure
Basically, I'd recommend luminus until you get opinions of your own (e.g. I rather like bidi).
EDIT: except for the inherent awesomeness of s-expressions (>__> ?)
Sinatra's lovely, though.
the promise of clojure to me (aside from liking lisp) is similar to that of node: only having to maintain one codebase for both client and server sides.
also, really should say thanks to the author of the original article. returned here today when i realized that korma doesn't create tables and i'll need .... lobos, apparently, which was not mentioned in any of my searches for such a library. why didn't this submission get more upvotes?
The one thing I've really loved about the clojure community is the willingness to take a step back from the problem at hand and the attempt to understand what kind of architecture could address that problem, as opposed to just porting an existing idea/architecture to clojure.
The ring/ring-devel library includes middleware that reloads modified files (ring.middleware.reload), and this is included by default with the Lein-Ring plugin.
The second approach is to run the server from within the REPL, and to have functions to reload modified files and restart the server. There are libraries like Component and Jig that provide a framework for this style of development.
The trend seems to be toward the second, though it requires a little more work than the first option.