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Re:Google told mystery barge ‘needs to move’ from San Franci... by joelrunyon on Tuesday February 04, 2014 @08:27PM (#7181377)
It's not really a "mystery barge" anymore is it? That makes for a good headline, but it's been a couple months since Google revealed it's actual plans for it [1].

[1] http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/06/tech/innovation/google-barge-s...

Re:Google told mystery barge ‘needs to move’ from San Franci... by Einstalbert on Tuesday February 04, 2014 @08:47PM (#7181433)
Thank you for posting this, I honestly wasn't aware of this yet.
Re:Google told mystery barge ‘needs to move’ from San Franci... by nhayden on Tuesday February 04, 2014 @09:13PM (#7181510)
The story I heard about this barge not mentioned in this article or in the one in joel's comment: they're going to use it as an office space for employees who can't legally work in the US, either because of visa issues or something else. It makes sense Google wouldn't want this to be public information.
Re:Google told mystery barge ‘needs to move’ from San Franci... by joelrunyon on Tuesday February 04, 2014 @10:00PM (#7181645)
I think you're thinking of Blue Seed (https://blueseed.co/) which is a non-Google venture and off the Pacific Ocean outside US territory waters.

If the Barge is in the bay - it's still in US territory & they still need visas.

Re:Google told mystery barge ‘needs to move’ from San Franci... by skj on Tuesday February 04, 2014 @09:32PM (#7181559)
Also, that suggestion is pretty silly.
Re:Google told mystery barge ‘needs to move’ from San Franci... by jrockway on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @01:06AM (#7182177)
Indeed, there are Google offices in countries with much more ... liberal ... immigration policies. The only convenience a barge would offer is timezone issues, but who wants to live on a barge just to be in the same time zone as Mountain View? I'm guessing nobody.
Re:Google told mystery barge ‘needs to move’ from San Franci... by raldi on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @02:03AM (#7182337)
There are other advantages. For example, American employees could visit them in person any day necessary, and then go home to SF or Mountain View, or alternate between the offices a couple days a week.

There would also likely be staggering tax benefits.

Re:Google told mystery barge ‘needs to move’ from San Franci... by jrockway on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @02:53AM (#7182480)
Hmm, that's true.

I worry about the logistics. What if there's some condition where the barge needs to be evacuated (storm, etc.). Since nobody has visas for the mainland, where would they go?

Also, let's say you have 1000 engineers living and working there; where are you going to get all that network bandwidth? Wireless?

Finally, families?

Re:Google told mystery barge ‘needs to move’ from San Franci... by raldi on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @03:41PM (#7186650)
As usual, just follow the ST:TNG playbook.
Re:Google told mystery barge ‘needs to move’ from San Franci... by jrockway on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:11PM (#7188679)
Install four lights and try to convince people that there are five?
Re:Google told mystery barge ‘needs to move’ from San Franci... by raldi on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:46PM (#7188777)
Okay, for reals this time:

> What if there's some condition where the barge needs to be evacuated

Whatever a cruise ship or airplane does.

> Also, let's say you have 1000 engineers living and working there; where are you going to get all that network bandwidth?

Undersea cable, attached to a buoy. Or yeah, wireless. Have a local copy of as much as possible to allow development with a minimum of ship-to-shore packet transmission.

> Finally, families?

They live there too. Just like Star Trek.

Re:Google told mystery barge ‘needs to move’ from San Franci... by garthdog on Tuesday February 04, 2014 @11:05PM (#7181827)
Why the fuck are they even referencing the shuttle protests in that article? What does that have to do with anything?
Re:Google told mystery barge ‘needs to move’ from San Franci... by yetanotherphd on Tuesday February 04, 2014 @11:58PM (#7181964)
The Google barge is displacing thousands of cubic meters of water, some of which has been in the bay for decades.
Re:Google told mystery barge ‘needs to move’ from San Franci... by ericHosick on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @01:07AM (#7182178)
"Ocean tides flow through the Golden Gate four times a day -- twice coming in and twice going out. The quantity of salt water in motion between high and low tides averages 390 billion gallons." or about 1.5 billion cubic meters per day.
Re:Google told mystery barge ‘needs to move’ from San Franci... by jrockway on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @02:54AM (#7182482)
Doesn't matter. The barges should be driving their cars to work.
Re:Google told mystery barge ‘needs to move’ from San Franci... by dohertyjf on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @01:49AM (#7182293)
You win. That was hilarious.
Re:Google told mystery barge ‘needs to move’ from San Franci... by spacehome on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @01:38AM (#7182256)
This is deeply hilarious.
Re:Google told mystery barge ‘needs to move’ from San Franci... by calciphus on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @09:23AM (#7183817)
Why is a minor zoning and permitting issue getting this much attention? It doesn't even have anything to do with Google per se, this is an issue between a few regulatory bodies.

I get that this pushes the narrative that SV/SF is 'fed up' with Google, but can we stop with the linkbait?

Re:Google told mystery barge ‘needs to move’ from San Franci... by Zigurd on Tuesday February 04, 2014 @10:36PM (#7181729)
I predict these barges will end up being scrapped as a misbegotten folly. There are these venues called "exhibition halls." They work well enough.
Re:Google told mystery barge ‘needs to move’ from San Franci... by samstave on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @12:33AM (#7182083)
>There are these venues called "exhibition halls." They work well enough.

Without the ability to prove that you can float the load, supply the power, deal with the legal entanglements, garner interest, weather the... weather, etc...

Screw your static non-visionary approach to testing.

If I want to test the idea of a barge based floating environ, the last thing I want to see it demo'd in is a warehouse.