I'm guessing you haven't tried MS's latest desktop platform developer suite?
Re:Satya Nadella – Microsoft's CEO
by BlackDeath3 on Tuesday February 04, 2014 @03:15PM
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Yeah, I don't really get that above post at all. Perhaps it's just because I haven't strayed too far into the web/mobile space (Dart, Android applications, etc.), but when I think of the "programming space", I think of Microsoft (VS, C#, XNA, .NET, etc.) much quicker than I do Google.
Didn't Microsoft deprecate XNA? So now Monogame is taking over?
When I think 'programming space' I think open-source - C, C++, Java, Mono, Javascript, Python, Ruby, R, Lisps, Rust, Dart, Go, Haskell, OCaml, etc...
Google doesn't immediately come to mind because they just use and give back to the OSS space, not caring too much to lock developers in.
Tell that people who started projects in GWT ;-) (which by itself is quite horribile as it's Java, but not quite Java and you can't use most of the libs out there because the class library is very crippled)
Do you mean Visual Studio or their languages? If the former, that's a tool. They make good tools, no doubt, but closed tools aren't really conducive to open innovation. They've made good languages, but again I wouldn't want to get tied down to a closed platform.
Re:Satya Nadella – Microsoft's CEO
by unknownian on Tuesday February 04, 2014 @06:26PM
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Microsoft has done a good amount of interesting R&D.
Hang on - how has google enriched the developer space?
Re:Satya Nadella – Microsoft's CEO
by outside1234 on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @12:39AM
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you don't use Dart or Go?
Actually, neither do I. Its funny, because when they do hit on something like Node.js (built with v8), Google ignores it. Its sort of puzzling actually.
I actually do use go, and I like it, but it's hardly setting the world on fire.
Guava is the main piece I think about. GWT? Guice? What else?
Hardly setting fire to the world. Really nothing by comparison to what FOSS has accomplished without them.
Angular? Repo? Popular web browser that does not suck? Being a force behind new HTML5 APIs?
Popular web browser that doesn't suck was already taken care of. HTML5 Apis are a collaborative effort. Angular is a novel entrant that is one among hundreds.
I'm not trying to suggest that Google isn't contributing positively to the dev community, but I strongly dispute the idea that they have enriched it in any way proportionally to the way they've profited from it.
I can't come to the same conclusion. Just look at how much innovation has happened to areas that Microsoft dominated as opposed to those dominated by Google. Google basically sets fire to whatever it gets into. Look at how much they've enriched the developer space in those areas. Everything Microsoft is still stuck in the early 2000s.