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Re:The Sad State of Mobile XMPP in 2014 by voltagex_ on Thursday January 30, 2014 @10:43PM (#7155113)
If Apple had kept their promise to "open" FaceTime, I wonder if things would be different. Imagine being able to open a Hangouts session with anyone in your contacts who has an iPhone (without them installing Hangouts for iOS). Imagine if the Hangouts protocol had been released, then I could keep my strange bitlbee setups and have my messages anywhere.

I think it's probably time to move on from XMPP, but you really need Google, Apple, Microsoft and WhatsApp in a room together thrashing out something that'll work for everyone. I can dream, right?

Re:The Sad State of Mobile XMPP in 2014 by ksec on Friday January 31, 2014 @01:52AM (#7155661)
Apple couldn't open up Facetime due to Patent threats.
Re:The Sad State of Mobile XMPP in 2014 by 501 on Friday January 31, 2014 @03:06AM (#7155836)
I've seen this explanation in a few places and while I don't discount it entirely, I find it difficult to believe it's the sole factor at play; primarily because of the dearth of other third-party accessible services that build on AppleID (CalDAV and IMAP/SMTP are the only ones that come to mind).