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Re:Secret State of North Korea [video] by tptacek on Wednesday January 15, 2014 @08:49PM (#7067532)
There's some amazing footage in this; at one point, someone with a hidden camera visits a Potemkin department store in Pyongyang and tries to buy a dress, and then some beer, only to be told that all the merchandise on display is for display only.
Re:Secret State of North Korea [video] by qohen on Thursday January 16, 2014 @03:23AM (#7068609)
In 1989 Anthony Daniels, aka Theodore Dalrymple, went to one of these department stores and describes how even the shoppers in the store were fake -- here's an excerpt (more at the link [1]):

It didn’t take long to discover that this was no ordinary department store. It was filled with thousands of people, going up and down the escalators, standing at the corners, going in and out of the front entrance in a constant stream both ways – yet nothing was being bought or sold. I checked this by standing at the entrance for half an hour. The people coming out were carrying no more than the people entering. Their shopping bags contained as much, or as little, when they left as when they entered. In some cases, I recognised people coming out as those who had gone in a few minutes before, only to see them re-entering the store almost immediately. And I watched a hardware counter for fifteen minutes. There were perhaps twenty people standing at it; there were two assistants behind the counter, but they paid no attention to the ‘customers’. The latter and the assistants stared past each other in a straight line, neither moving nor speaking.

...snip...

I also followed a few people around at random, as discreetly as I could. Some were occupied in ceaselessly going up and down the escalators; others wandered from counter to counter, spending a few minutes at each before moving on. They did not inspect the merchandise; they moved as listlessly as illiterates might, condemned to spend the day among the shelves of a library. I did not know whether to laugh or explode with anger or weep. But I knew I was seeing one of the most extraordinary sights of the twentieth century.

[1] http://www.skepticaldoctor.com/2010/01/15/classic-dalrymple-...

Re:Secret State of North Korea [video] by dzink on Thursday January 16, 2014 @01:43PM (#7071536)
We had those in Bulgaria for a number of years before the fall of communism. They were restricted to use only by foreigners buying with foreign currency and locals could only gawk, but never buy. As a child I remember seeing Kinder Surprise eggs and Ritter Sport chocolates, and watching ads for Hot Wheels toys and paint-by number sets I could never play with. It scars you for life.

Years later I saw paint by number sets at a store as an adult and then bought two and spend a weekend doing just that, because I had been dreaming of doing it for years. Ritter Sport is everywhere in the US now, but when I see it, I'm just reminded of the misery of a childhood behind the iron curtain. It's gonna be a loooong transition for the victims of the Kim regime.

Re:Secret State of North Korea [video] by herdrick on Thursday January 16, 2014 @03:04PM (#7072150)
Actually, this is something else. Those foreigner-only, hard-currency-only ones are sad enough, but this is much worse. There is no store. It's just playacting.
Re:Secret State of North Korea [video] by kteofanidis on Friday January 17, 2014 @08:44AM (#7075677)
It wasn't even that. Locals were also allowed to buy as long as they had foreign currency. While it was hard to get it was by no means impossible (black market at 3-4 times the official rate). Of course if you bought anything expensive or too often, questions would be asked.
Re:Secret State of North Korea [video] by dzink on Thursday January 16, 2014 @10:22PM (#7074087)
It's a museum of the present that could have been.
Re:Secret State of North Korea [video] by bane on Wednesday January 15, 2014 @09:19PM (#7067639)
I noticed also that almost everything they showed was non-perishable goods.

The smuggled footage in this is fantastic and remarkable. The interviews with the North Koreans in the South were also quite interesting.

Re:Secret State of North Korea [video] by cclogg on Wednesday January 15, 2014 @09:22PM (#7067647)
Darn, now I really want to watch it lol! However, it's blocked in Canada :(

It's kind of silly considering we actually contribute to PBS (according to PBS Seattle, we make up a 3rd of their contributions).

Re:Secret State of North Korea [video] by bane on Wednesday January 15, 2014 @09:24PM (#7067657)
The stream is pretty saturated right now.

TBH, if you've watched 2 or 3 other North Korean documentaries, this is kind of more of the same, except maybe a full third of it was filmed by North Koreans in North Korea using smuggled cameras. The information is more up-to-date also, but it the basic gist isn't really anything too new.

Re:Secret State of North Korea [video] by beggi on Wednesday January 15, 2014 @11:16PM (#7068056)
I've seen a lot of North Korean documentaries but I have never seen an overview like this of information and media that is being smuggled into and out of the country and how it's smuggled. I believe that spreading information about the outside world into North Korea is key in bringing down the regime, so I think this documentary really worth watching.
Re:Secret State of North Korea [video] by sheldoan on Wednesday January 15, 2014 @10:25PM (#7067892)
Try using Hola Unblocker, a handy Chrome/Firefox extension that allows you to get around regional blocks
Re:Secret State of North Korea [video] by afterburner on Wednesday January 15, 2014 @11:30PM (#7068085)
Thanks, worked perfectly.
Re:Secret State of North Korea [video] by aaronsnoswell on Thursday January 16, 2014 @12:53AM (#7068288)
I'm from Australia, but couldn't resist not seeing this. I used a free US VPN to watch it ;)
Re:Secret State of North Korea [video] by aaronem on Thursday January 16, 2014 @08:29AM (#7069230)
You couldn't resist not seeing this, so you saw it?
Re:Secret State of North Korea [video] by jotm on Thursday January 16, 2014 @02:24AM (#7068466)
Which one?
Re:Secret State of North Korea [video] by jlgaddis on Thursday January 16, 2014 @01:05AM (#7068315)
FYI, a magnet link has been posted (here in the thread) since you left this comment.
Re:Secret State of North Korea [video] by jlgaddis on Thursday January 16, 2014 @01:00AM (#7068303)
I won't be able to watch this until the weekend but I'm curious why

> ... all the merchandise on display is for display only.

?

Re:Secret State of North Korea [video] by Mikeb85 on Thursday January 16, 2014 @01:02AM (#7068308)
The products on the shelves can't be bought, they're literally just there for show, as opposed to a normal store where you buy things...
Re:Secret State of North Korea [video] by jlgaddis on Thursday January 16, 2014 @01:52AM (#7068402)
Why?
Re:Secret State of North Korea [video] by RogerL on Friday January 17, 2014 @11:13AM (#7076490)
Pyongyang is the capital city of North Korea. Almost the entire city is for show, and for reward. For example, if you are a member of the Party, and are favored for some reason, thy may move you to Pyongyang. That is no small thing; families were starving to death in the rural areas, whereas so far as I know they had it better in Pyongyang.

But, it is a 'show' city. It is the only place where foreigners are allowed, for example. School children do not go to school to learn. They go to school and drill endlessly in song, dance, marching, playing musical instruments, and so on. Then they put on shows for visiting dignitaries, government officials, and tourists. Woe be to the child that makes a mistake. Where 'woe' could include prison camp for them and their family.

Use Google Earth, and look around the city. Then go to some no-name China city and do the same. In Pyongyang the streets are very wide, yet entirely empty. It is thought that part of the emptiness is due to the famine - millions died - but it is also because it is a facade. Entire tall apartment buildings and factories are built - and left empty. Most of the tall buildings, so far as we can tell, are empty. People are employed to mill in and out to give the appearance of business, but Google earth tells the real story - this is a ghost town. I mean truly empty. You'll see a few trucks or cars, and a few people walking around, but otherwise...entirely empty. Meanwhile all of the fake stuff is recorded and transmitted in the weekly propaganda (news) shows. "Great Leader inspects department store and gives advice on how to improve sales". "Young Leader breaks ground on glorious new apartment building project". And so on. They spend millions on this while the people starve. Cannibalism was fairly reliably reported during the famine. A rat was a real treat, if you caught one, but you would be sent to prison camp if caught doing so.

It is an astonishingly bad place run by psychopaths mad on power.

Re:Secret State of North Korea [video] by ddeck on Thursday January 16, 2014 @02:59AM (#7068539)
I presume they're on display to give the appearance of easy availability of a wide range of products (the store is apparently featured on TV programs), but not for sale because there is in fact no availability due to trade restrictions.
Re:Secret State of North Korea [video] by herdrick on Thursday January 16, 2014 @02:42PM (#7071990)
Trade restrictions? The issue is that NK is grindingly poor.
Re:Secret State of North Korea [video] by jlgaddis on Thursday January 16, 2014 @02:49PM (#7072040)
Thank you very much.
Re:Secret State of North Korea [video] by bzbarsky on Thursday January 16, 2014 @09:59AM (#7069678)
You may want to read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potemkin_village for some historical examples of similar things....