Why I stopped using Spring

Re:Why I stopped using Spring by bsaul on Wednesday December 25, 2013 @12:09PM (#6963424)

Is there any good, recent ( but past the beta stage), fast, non bloated java framework anyone here could recommend ?

I've done a medium sized spring project last year, and found the language quite good, but the framework itself and the general ecosystem really too cumbersome.

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Re:Why I stopped using Spring by zeroDivisible on Wednesday December 25, 2013 @12:26PM (#6963486)

As most of my daily tasks are being done in J2EE environment, I have goosebumps each time I hear "java" & "framework" used in one sentence. And that's not excitement, that's fear.

The only framework which I can recommend, is Dropwizard (http://dropwizard.codahale.com/), which tries not to be a framework, just a glue between some really nice libraries and tools.

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Re:Why I stopped using Spring by bsaul on Thursday December 26, 2013 @11:14AM (#6966677)

Really helpful comment, thanks. I probably overestimated the importance of a "framework" in the java world, where everything is standardized, and every standard is implemented through standalone libraries (which is probably another reason spring became so famous when i come to think of it, with its original glue-like approach).

I'll start with "raw" java next time i'll want to try playing with rest services.

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Re:Why I stopped using Spring by lnanek2 on Wednesday December 25, 2013 @01:07PM (#6963664)

Take a look at http://vertx.io/ . It's basically the Java community's answer to modern, fast, straight forward technologies like NodeJS. Just by the performance improvements alone I've been hearing people tout you can often justify it in big business jobs.

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Re:Why I stopped using Spring by bobbyi_settv on Wednesday December 25, 2013 @03:04PM (#6964064)

How about Google Guice? I can't recommend it because I personally haven't used it, but I was under the impression that it is supposed to be the answer to this.

If it isn't what you're looking for, I'd be curious to hear which of these qualifications it fails at.

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Re:Why I stopped using Spring by Edmond on Wednesday December 25, 2013 @01:35PM (#6963765)

I am the founder of Crudzilla Software (check my profile for link).

Our product is a browser based web development tool that comes with its own middleware/framework with a UI built just for it. I think this approach while not as generic is superior because you get the benefit of real tooling not just a generic framework that you need to manually glue together.

Spring like many frameworks are designed to be generic and pluggable into other tools/IDEs, unfortunately once they become complex their benefit is greatly reduced for most projects.

Support us so we can continue to improve on the product, visual UI building and integration is on the horizon :)

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Re:Why I stopped using Spring by ivan_gammel on Wednesday December 25, 2013 @01:27PM (#6963738)

I can recommend Thymeleaf, which is a nice replacement to JSP, FreeMarker and Velocity for rendering web page and e-mail templates.

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Re:Why I stopped using Spring by danieldk on Wednesday December 25, 2013 @12:55PM (#6963619)

Is there any good, recent ( but past the beta stage), fast, non bloated java framework anyone here could recommend ?

For? If you are developing REST applications, the JAX-RS standard is great, lightweight, and mature. I have used both Jersey and RestEasy without any problems.

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Re:Why I stopped using Spring by lmm on Wednesday December 25, 2013 @02:41PM (#6963992)

Picocontainer is good if you just want something that will do DI and nothing else, and stay out of your way apart from that.

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