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Re:I Got Myself Arrested So I Could Look Inside the Justice ... by stingraycharles on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @05:09PM (#6924331)
Over here in The Netherlands, about 10 years ago, there was a lot of commotion about a group of white supremacy-gangs wearing Lonsdale bomberjacks, and people wearing those were banned from certain clubs, etc.

According to your logic, in this case, everyone wearing a Lonsdale bomberjack would have to be arrested, and they would have to be banned by law? Isn't that outlawing the symptom, instead of outlawing the actual problem?

EDIT: Apparently this was not just an issue in The Netherlands, but more widespread: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/147...

Re:I Got Myself Arrested So I Could Look Inside the Justice ... by Crito on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @05:25PM (#6924423)
> "According to your logic, in this case, everyone wearing a Lonsdale bomberjack would have to be arrested, and they would have to be banned by law? Isn't that outlawing the symptom, instead of outlawing the actual problem?"

What? No. Just no.

It may be different in the Netherlands, but in the US riding dirtbikes on public streets is illegal. The bikes themselves are not street legal. The bikes don't have plates, turn signals, mirrors or horns. They are not registered with the DMV. In Pennsylvania they are wildly in violation of noise laws for motorcycles (they drown out conversations indoors when they pass on the streets). Totally unlicensed and almost certainly therefore uninsured (which is again illegal). Riding bikes of any sort in gangs is further illegal, breaking all sorts of traffic laws.

This going after dirt-bike riders is not about going after a symptom or superficial attribute of some other crime. It is the crime. It is the actual problem.

If I were saying "go after cars with spinney wheels" (which are perfectly legal) or "go after people wearing only red or blue" (which is perfectly legal) then your comparison would be apt, but that is not what is going on here.

Re:I Got Myself Arrested So I Could Look Inside the Justice ... by evan_ on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @05:37PM (#6924477)
You might want to just clarify since I could imagine it being a regional language issue- a "Dirt bike" is a type of off-road motorcycle, not a human-powered bicycle.
Re:I Got Myself Arrested So I Could Look Inside the Justice ... by Crito on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @05:46PM (#6924529)
Ah, good point. A dirt-bike is basically a stripped down off-road motorcycle. Fast, loud, and cheap.
Re:I Got Myself Arrested So I Could Look Inside the Justice ... by andybak on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @06:40PM (#6924795)
That clarifies it for me. I was imagining a bicycle.
Re:I Got Myself Arrested So I Could Look Inside the Justice ... by adestefan on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @05:54PM (#6924563)
A motocross bike would be a good term.