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Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by Keyframe on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @09:37AM (#6921285)
What a shitty user experience. What changed at google? They used to have these rather simple, useful, UIs.
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by josteink on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @10:26AM (#6921584)
I don't even know what I'm looking at here.

It renders incorrectly, had zero info and just shows me pictures of Hollywood celebrities.

Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by agildehaus on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @10:24AM (#6921572)
Designers and product managers have taken the reigns from the engineers.

Recall that Google at one time never had TV advertisements. Now you can't turn the damn thing on without seeing one.

Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by wonderyak on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @04:57PM (#6924245)
Any designer that knows what they are doing makes things easier to use, not more difficult.

I think it would be better to say 'Amateurs have taken the reigns'.

Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by devcpp on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @11:28AM (#6921961)
Exactly. After all, it's pretty much how Apple made its historic unprecedented profits: more designers than engineers.
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by raldi on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @11:29AM (#6921973)
Really? What Google commercials have you seen recently?
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by agildehaus on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @11:45AM (#6922069)
Constant Chrome/cast/book and Nexus tablet ads. I've seen this one far too much:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LysTmwDan8

Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by yalogin on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @11:43AM (#6922057)
Wow. I am not the only one that felt like this.

That was such a horribly designed UI. I had no idea what I am looking at and why. Google used to all about simplicity. I remember in prior years these kind of posts always had graphs and considerable text explaining trends. Its like someone there realized they are JS experts.

Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by SiVal on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @03:53PM (#6923879)
No, you're not alone. When they offer data, a lot of us think, "Oh, goodie, some interesting data!" We hustle over there to learn something new and learn it quickly.

If instead we are treated to a demonstration of javascript media virtuosity that buries the actual data too deeply to be worth extracting, we get annoyed and complain: "Where's the beef?" (But I don't think there's anybody back there[1].)

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug75diEyiA0

Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by jlarocco on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @02:25PM (#6923251)
In Chrome I get an empty dark blue screen unless I tell Ghostery not to block the Google +1 tracker.
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by scholia on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @01:37PM (#6922850)
I hit the button to say exactly that, but you beat me to it. It's unbelievably bad, even by Google's rapidly declining standards....
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by schandur on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @11:13AM (#6921866)
I gave the video about 2 seconds before closing the tab.
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by Keyframe on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @11:17AM (#6921896)
I went through it, I always give a chance to content no matter how presented it is ( a habit of mine). However, it didn't tell me anything. It's like a run-of-the-mill motivation video. To make things worse, I couldn't get to the results of zeitgeist on my own to see what was actually going on.

It looks pretty, and I am sure lots of work was put into it and I appreciate that. But it's uninspired and isn't very functional. I expect functionality first from google. Well, I used to.

Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by nettletea on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @09:21AM (#6921186)
You seriously mean to tell me that the most popular search on Google for 2013 is 'Paul Walker' followed by 'iPhone 5s'? What? Surely 'Weather' would be higher. I simply don't know what I'm looking at here.
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by chaz on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @09:52AM (#6921363)
It's actually "Top 100 [Trending] Searches." They could have been more clear about that.

http://www.google.com/trends/topcharts?date=2013

Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by boomzilla on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @03:48PM (#6923836)
Yes, it's trending searches, not most popular ones. By the way, non-engineers/non-analytical people usually have trouble differentiating the two. I can't recall how many meetings with product/business people that I have to explain the concepts.
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by aroch on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @09:30AM (#6921247)
Fairly sure they've filtered out what might constitute "low importance" searched like terms such as 'weather'. Searches for the weather probably remain relatively stable and don't really tell us anything.
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by fvrghl on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @11:25AM (#6921943)
I also wondered why the death of Paul Walker was in the video. Surely Lou Reed was more influential, yet his death wasn't mentioned.
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by chimeracoder on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @10:38AM (#6921654)
I imagine this is a variant of a Latent Dirichlet Allocation[0]. Informally, this will identify words "most associated" with 2013, which is not the same thing as the most searched words in 2013.

Put another way, unless there's a huge spike of interest in the weather in 2013 compared to other years, "weather" won't be included.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latent_dirichlet_allocation

Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by martingordon on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @09:44AM (#6921321)
Scrolling is backwards on my Mac. I'm using the default ("natural") scrolling, where swiping up scrolls down, but this page is set to scroll down with a swipe down.

Probably has to do with the fact that they're rendering the images in a canvas element rather than plain old HTML.

It's also broken on iPads. You can't see the bottom nav in portrait and the site is slightly too large for the viewport when viewed in landscape.

Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by CaveTech on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @09:55AM (#6921380)
I think it might be intentional. I don't use natural scrolling and it's broken for me as well.
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by joecurry on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @10:00AM (#6921411)
I would prefer a .txt file list over this, I can't even tell the order without individual clicks.
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by uncoder0 on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @10:47AM (#6921711)
http://www.google.com/trends/topcharts#date=2013. Not a text file but, a much better format than the op.

Edit: Apparently this is linked in the bottom left corner of the page... totally missed it. What an effective site design.

Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by Recoil42 on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @03:57PM (#6923907)
And it still fucking breaks scroll.
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by wavefunction on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @11:29AM (#6921970)
That would make sense if this were something that was intended to be useful and meaningful. I think this is just supposed to remind you that Google is a thing.
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by sgustard on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @11:51AM (#6922100)
The actual data is so boring (hint: Miley Cyrus) that it's purely an exercise in wasteful over-engineering.
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by eamsen on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @10:31AM (#6921619)
Google Zeitgeist 2013: black box.

The video doesn't load for me on Firefox. It is probably just a bug and will be fixed but it coincidentally prints the correct picture of Google's current stance on browser compatibility. Anyone else thinks that the silent conversion tactics are slowly becoming more obvious?

Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by yapcguy on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @10:39AM (#6921659)
Consider yourself fortunate you can't watch the video.

It's exactly the kind of maudlin crap we have come to expect from politically correct tech companies.

Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by dingaling on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @01:22PM (#6922744)
Flashblock catches it for me in FF25, the video is actually

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Lv-sY_z8MNs

Perhaps you don't have Flash installed, you lucky thing.

Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by eamsen on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @02:08PM (#6923098)
Flash is installed, no blocking add-ons were used. For that matter, I have disabled all other add-ons, that could be interfering and still get the same result.

It could be a flash (64 bit) issue. Also, that's not the video that would show for me, because of localization (Germany). Despite my preference for the English language and google.com over google.de, Google tries to show me this video instead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hVwx13k1QM .

Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by brokenparser on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @11:54AM (#6922117)
The video appears to be an mp4 (the network monitor says so) and it should work fine (it does here). Please ensure you have the latest FF version, available from https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/ (in case the update fails).
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by eamsen on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @02:03PM (#6923065)
I have Firefox 26.0 installed, it still fails on both Windows 7 and Ubuntu 13.10 (64 bit both).
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by brokenparser on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @04:16PM (#6924034)
Can't help you with Windows, but I'm interested to see what happens under Ubuntu. It's on my todo list for tomorrow (by date, not by priority).
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by brokenparser on Thursday December 19, 2013 @01:01AM (#6933161)
It appears to work just fine in FF26 under Ubuntu 3.10 without anything extra installed. Have you tried turning it off and on? Try a new profile (firefox -profileManager) or Restart with Add-ons Disabled (help menu), or perhaps it was just a fluke. Could not reproduce (relevant XKCD: http://xkcd.com/583/ ).
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by brokenparser on Thursday December 19, 2013 @03:42AM (#6933538)
That should've been 13.10, too late to edit :(
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by franze on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @09:24AM (#6921200)
what a horrible, horrible browsing experience on desktop. this is a complete new kind of swipeware/pseudo-metro crap...
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by scrrr on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @09:56AM (#6921388)
yeah, it's very non-Google somehow..
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by wavefunction on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @11:31AM (#6921980)
Or maybe the new Google. Or the same Google we always had.
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by brokenparser on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @11:48AM (#6922080)
You're saying it's a 0 or a 1?
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by wavefunction on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @02:18PM (#6923192)
It's definitely a 13 74/9ths
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by mcgwiz on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @10:08AM (#6921459)
Did I miss something or is 2013 already over?

Also, didn't find any mention of NSA or Snowden. Sadly, I wasn't surprised.

Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by eamsen on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @10:37AM (#6921643)
Snowden is #97 for me. I suspect that the results are localized (Germany for me).
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by beaker52 on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @09:07AM (#6921113)
Edward Snowden not in top 100.

Goes to show my assumption that he would be says that I'm subject to a large degree of bias.

Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by dec0dedab0de on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @09:53AM (#6921371)
While I read almost every HN post I saw about Snowden, I don't think I searched his name at all. In fact, I can't remember searching anything news related this year. I'm sure I have, but its really not necessary anymore. I wonder if others are starting to get into similar patterns.
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by k-mcgrady on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @09:12AM (#6921139)
Is the top 100 actually the top 100? I'm sure it's filtered quite a bit.
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by ouggnay on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @09:15AM (#6921153)
Edward Snowden is #97.
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by xemoka on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @11:09AM (#6921840)
I'm usually quite impressed by Google's Zeitgeist videos, this one was disappointing however. It's short (a minute shorter than 2012 and 2011), doesn't include many of the important events of the year, and is rather uninspiring. What happened?
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by oneeyedpigeon on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @09:07AM (#6921118)
Breaks the back button :-(
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by nettletea on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @09:18AM (#6921175)
It's a hideous UI, all I want is a text list of top searches for the year, and to be able to filter by category.

Stealing my touch scroll isn't that nice either. I struggled to read beyond the fold.

Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by headgasket on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @10:19AM (#6921541)
This UI reminds me of Encarta 98.
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by VladRussian2 on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @02:36PM (#6923338)
nice. Black dead rectangle in the center of bluish background. No interaction anywhere. Firefox. If it doesn't work in FF, it doesn't work.
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by hsivonen on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @10:24AM (#6921571)
Requires login? Why?
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by gpmcadam on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @11:39AM (#6922028)
I think it's just a default Google thing. Basically, it notices you're logged in but you haven't entered your password for a while, so it prompts you to login again.

Instead, I just clicked 'Log out and log in as a different user', closed the tab, and clicked the link again on HN, and it worked just fine.

So in short, it doesn't require you to be logged in, unless you are, at which point you have to log in again.

Bizarre.

Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by aasarava on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @11:24AM (#6921934)
I wonder if most people didn't even notice that because they remain logged in to Google services all the time.
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by aaronetz on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @11:50AM (#6922092)
Chrome on Windows 7 bug report: back button doesn't work, mouse wheel doesn't work (scrolls at infinitesimal speed), touch-screen style controls which don't work well with a mouse (click&drag, besides not being intuitive with a mouse, is also broken because it navigates to the selected item on mouse button release)
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by fmax30 on Wednesday December 18, 2013 @03:30AM (#6926467)
The first few times i visited this , i was looking for a way to access more content then quit half way round. I tried scrolling down , it didn't work . I had to click a link on the left corner of my screen which wasn't even that visible to me. Affordance = 0.
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by chacham15 on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @10:50AM (#6921730)
There must be something wrong with this list when Edward Snowden is at #97 and Paul Walker is #2.

To make this more clear: Snowden was the top Google search for many days, perhaps as long as the incident of Paul Walkers death until now.

Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by jmedwards on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @10:44AM (#6921691)
That wasn't a patch on the 2012 Zeitgeist that Google put together: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY_MUB8adEQ
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by hartator on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @08:50PM (#6925385)
"When you finally get at that's point of acceptance, there is nothing more beautiful"

Showing a woman with a scarf...

Come on google, just go already.

Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by CisSovereign on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @03:03PM (#6923536)
I'm on chrome and it was super clunky. Skipped a ton on scroll.
Re:Google Zeitgeist 2013 by stevenspasbo on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @02:44PM (#6923405)
All I'm seeing is a blue screen. Macbook, using Chrome.