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Re:Notch, WebGL, Dart, and ramping up quickly by melling on Tuesday December 03, 2013 @04:18PM (#6843255)
Beats me. I guess someday when you're an old man, right before you close your eyes for the last time, you can imagine all that cool code that you wrote, and say what a great life you had. You were a hacker.

Steve, Larry, Notch, and the Instagram guys can know what they did made a difference. The world is a different place because they lived. They connected the important dots and hacked life...

Re:Notch, WebGL, Dart, and ramping up quickly by georgemcbay on Tuesday December 03, 2013 @04:44PM (#6843412)
There are lots of ways to live a great life and relatively few of them involve fame and fortune.

Also there are many people who make a big difference without achieving fame and fortune. Even within the tech industry I would argue that, for example, Dennis Ritchie's contributions were far more fundamentally important than any of the people you listed, yet he never achieved the massive wealth or mainstream fame of those you've mentioned.

Re:Notch, WebGL, Dart, and ramping up quickly by melling on Tuesday December 03, 2013 @05:14PM (#6843573)
I didn't say that you had to achieve massive wealth or fame. I said being that "idolizing someone for writing great code" isn't a worthwhile goal. Dennis Ritchie created two important products that are still used today: C and Unix. I think you'd find plenty of people would have a lot of bad things to say about C, for example, but it did solve a problem and help move the world forward.

By the way, why wouldn't you mention Bertrand Meyer or Niklaus Wirth?

Re:Notch, WebGL, Dart, and ramping up quickly by chrismonsanto on Tuesday December 03, 2013 @04:30PM (#6843335)
> I guess someday when you're an old man, right before you close your eyes for the last time, you can imagine all that cool code that you wrote, and say what a great life you had. You were a hacker.

I'm also a researcher, and I like to think that the ideas I discover will outlast me and will make a difference.

Your implication is that those who think of software as a 'product' to be sold are making a difference, and those who think of creating software as its own reward are not. Maybe you are right. I just wish there was a place for those of us who appreciate the craft to hang out. Hacker News, for a long time, was that place for me.

Re:Notch, WebGL, Dart, and ramping up quickly by jebblue on Tuesday December 03, 2013 @05:37PM (#6843698)
>> I just wish there was a place for those of us who appreciate the craft to hang out. Hacker News, for a long time, was that place for me.

I still don't get what you're talking about, you like to look at and admire code like it's art? Can you give an example of code that gives you satisfaction to just look at it regardless what it does?

Re:Notch, WebGL, Dart, and ramping up quickly by Fr0styMatt on Tuesday December 03, 2013 @07:13PM (#6844157)
Since we're talking about Carmack in this thread.... Fabien Sanglard does some excellent reviews of code from ID... see for example:

http://fabiensanglard.net/doom3/

There's actually a movement that studies code in the way you'd examine a literary work (Critical Code Studies). Sure it's very abstract, but it can be fun, see for example this book:

http://10print.org/

You could also look at livecoding - they treat coding as a performance art. For example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSGKEy8vHqg

Re:Notch, WebGL, Dart, and ramping up quickly by cocoflunchy on Tuesday December 03, 2013 @08:19PM (#6844421)
This: http://fabiensanglard.net/rayTracing_back_of_business_card/i... is a perfect example of what you're asking for (for me of course).
Re:Notch, WebGL, Dart, and ramping up quickly by voltagex_ on Tuesday December 03, 2013 @04:33PM (#6843351)
Have you read Stephen Levy's Hackers? I'm not sure Instagram would even exist without the pioneering programmers who started out on model trains...
Re:Notch, WebGL, Dart, and ramping up quickly by melling on Tuesday December 03, 2013 @05:15PM (#6843582)
Yes, we are all standing on the shoulders of giants. Can we be done now? This really is a waste of time.