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Re:India blocking climate talks: Warsaw, Bangkok, and Kyoto ... by dredmorbius on Monday December 02, 2013 @07:20PM (#6837633)
I wish for a future where every human being has more or less the same standards of living

I suspect we'll get there.

What I'm less certain of is what that standard of living will be.

Re:India blocking climate talks: Warsaw, Bangkok, and Kyoto ... by cscurmudgeon on Monday December 02, 2013 @08:29PM (#6837914)
So poor people should try getting rich because there is a chance everyone will get poor? (Meanwhile the rich consume as usual.) Don't you see how fucked up that stance is?
Re:India blocking climate talks: Warsaw, Bangkok, and Kyoto ... by dredmorbius on Monday December 02, 2013 @08:42PM (#6837968)
So poor people should try getting rich because there is a chance everyone will get poor?

Sorry, I'm not parsing that. Are you missing a negative somewhere?

My intended meaning: a greater level of allocation equity may be achieved. If we're lucky, it's going to be at a relatively high level (I'd be happy with a late 19th / early 20th century industrialized world equivalent). If we're not, it will be at subsistence agricultural levels -- somewhere between late bronze and early iron ages.

Modern industrialized civilization is a tremendous heat engine, and without high-quality fuel inputs, it will cease to function. That will tend to decrease global wealth and population drastically.

Re:India blocking climate talks: Warsaw, Bangkok, and Kyoto ... by cscurmudgeon on Tuesday December 03, 2013 @07:31AM (#6839863)
Missing a negative! :)
Re:India blocking climate talks: Warsaw, Bangkok, and Kyoto ... by dredmorbius on Tuesday December 03, 2013 @02:32PM (#6842545)
Gotchya.

As to the statement: life ain't fair.

There's a question of whether it's better to let some survive and/or thrive, and others not. It goes back a long ways. One of the more recent debates emerged when Garrett Hardin published his "Lifeboat Ethics" essay in 1974, which prompted fierce debate for several decades.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifeboat_ethics

http://web.ntpu.edu.tw/~ckliu/course/research/lifeboat.pdf