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Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by jacquesm on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @10:12AM (#680793)
I've just finished comparing virtualbox and vmware, and not of my own volition. I needed to compare a bunch of different file system solutions for clustering (see post elsewhere) and after working with vmware for several days finally gave up (vmware server 2.0), and tried the same under virtualbox. Virtualbox did the job quietly without fuss or license keys, where vmware was nothing but a pita and eventually refused to work.

The host os on the test machine is Ubuntu, the guest of was CentOs 4.7.

Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by Bjoern on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @10:16AM (#680801)
I can confirm this, had a similar experience. Though the VMWare Player is a nice piece of easy software for people who don't need all the features.

On a side note, did you ever install MS Windows iso with a system running on a CPU with SSE3 extension? Wuuuahhh thats fast :)

Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by sp332 on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @01:52PM (#681188)
This is why I'm happy that MS might be distributing Win7 on USB drives - install will finally take a reasonable amount of time.
Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by jsz0 on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @06:05PM (#681685)
Since this thread is becoming a VMWare hate session I'll add my gripes:

-No native VMWare infrastructure client for Linux (or OSX) -Very limited hardware support for ESX -Stupid restrictions on the free version of ESX to up-sell. (ie, no jumbo frames on iSCSI?)

It's no surprise to me VMWare has completely squandered their lead in virtualization. The actual end user experience of VMWare products has gone steadily down while the free/OSS and commercial competition has raised the bar. I don't have any major problems with VMWare's products from a technical standpoint but I'm seeing less reason to use them and deal with a lot of arbitrary marketing/licensing restrictions that just ends up making my life harder.

Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by Andys on Wednesday July 01, 2009 @04:55AM (#682311)
ESX isn't really comparable to VirtualBox, and is quite different to the other VMware products, so this isn't a particularly appropriate place to talk about it. But I must say that making a product like ESX have a free version as powerful as it is, is simply amazing and I am grateful for it.
Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by gcv on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @04:56PM (#681561)
Have you (or anyone) compared VirtualBox to a desktop virtualization package, such as VMware Fusion? How does it stack up?
Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by hyperbovine on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @07:23PM (#681807)
I have used VMWare Fusion for a couple of years now and have no complaints whatsoever. It's stable and not noticeably slower than using Boot Camp. USB pass-through and networking just work. You can even launch a Windows program directly from Finder. My one gripe--slow access times for the host-client file sharing interface--was fixed with 2.0.

I have never used any other VMWare product, or Virtual Box, but I thought I would add my $.02 since my experience seems to differ from most others here.

Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by jacquesm on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @05:03PM (#681577)
I've only used it for servers.
Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by johng on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @03:16PM (#681360)
It's important if you install windows in a VM to install the "guest tools" with Virtual box.. it makes it 100x more responsive. Don't forget this step.
Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by kirubakaran on Wednesday July 01, 2009 @01:23AM (#682158)
This is true even if the guest OS is something other than Windows. Automatic mouse capture is a very convenient.
Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by JshWright on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @09:04AM (#680696)
New features include guest SMP support, OpenGL 2.0, and experimental Direct3D 8/9 support (for windows guests, obviously...)
Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by marcocampos on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @01:15PM (#681113)
Warning: Guest SMP only works if you have a cpu with Intel VT-x or AMD-V.

Damn, why did I buy a Pentium Dual-Core instead of a regular Core 2 Duo? :/

Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by fno on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @04:52PM (#681554)
I love VirtualBox so much. Thanks to Innotek for the free and open-source distribution. I do use the closed source version though.

If only they would support branching snapshopts. For example a main VM and then you could have one work tree and one webbrowsing tree. This would make using it for daily work even more appealing. Well, some day, I am sure.

Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by scorpioxy on Wednesday July 01, 2009 @02:03AM (#682179)
I'd like to echo your wish. I also would like to have that feature.

I'd like to use when I am debugging a configuration issue on the OS with a certain application. Not a show-stopper by any means, but a would like to have.

Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by pasbesoin on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @11:22AM (#680890)
At the moment, the page's "MD5 sum" link is not resolving.

http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/3.0.0/MD5SUMS

Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by jdbeast00 on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @09:23AM (#680718)
hope it means this bug is fixed now....

http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/2978

Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by jdbeast00 on Wednesday July 01, 2009 @10:40PM (#683756)
i tested it on my computer, it didn't seem to occur, yay!
Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by Bjoern on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @10:14AM (#680796)
3.0 Already? Wasn't just sometime ago 2.3 the newest?

While VirtualBox is really great I like OSE (OpenSourceEdition) better. Unfortunately if one needs e.g. usbhotplug then you have to use the commercial branch :/

Does anyone know when OSE will have that feature?

Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by gaius on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @11:33AM (#680911)
Probably when the developers are so rich they don't need money for food or rent.
Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by w1ntermute on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @12:57PM (#681074)
Not to mention that there's nothing preventing a 3rd party from developing an open source patch implementing support for this very feature.
Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by fatdog789 on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @05:49PM (#681656)
Sure there is: lack of expertise. Also, unfamiliarity with the code base. For people without programming experience, there's also the opportunity cost of learning a programming language.

The reason open source hasn't taken off with the general public is b/c every time a non-programmer suggests a genuinely useful feature (to non-programmers), the response is: "it's open source, program it yourself." Most often, the easier and cheaper path is to just buy the competing commercial program.

Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by w1ntermute on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @06:18PM (#681710)
I'm not really sure what your point is here…the feature is _already_ available in closed-source form. I was merely pointing out that its presence and that of an open source implementation are not mutually exclusive simply because the closed source version was developed by the same people who developed and released the source for the rest of VirtualBox.
Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by jeduan on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @12:25PM (#681011)
Wont they be working at Oracle soon?
Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by gaius on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @03:33PM (#681405)
Maybe. Or maybe Oracle will stick with its own Xen-derived OracleVM.
Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by ciupicri on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @10:04PM (#681968)
And you think that uncle Larry will make them rich?
Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by sfphotoarts on Wednesday July 01, 2009 @07:56PM (#683593)
Did anyone get this to work on OSX? I installed it on my MBP, put Ubuntu 9.04 and it always locks up within a few minutes after booting, usually while its running the updater. Just wondered if others see this or its just me.
Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by sant0sk1 on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @10:10AM (#680788)
I didn't know other HNers were such VirtualBox fans! I use it daily and love it. This release looks great.
Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by jli on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @10:56AM (#680855)
but how is it for mac uses? it seems not as nice compared to parallels?
Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by gaius on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @11:55AM (#680952)
It's fine. I use it to run Solaris 10 and Windows XP on my MBP.
Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by JeremyChase on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @12:05PM (#680972)
I ran VirtualBox on my MPB for nearly a year. It was a fantastic platform to run XP under for web development testing. It works very seamlessly.
Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by deimos on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @01:38PM (#681159)
Works pretty well on 10.5.7 with WinXP SP3 as guest.

I couldn't install a firewall for testing (Comodo CIS, it'll hang WinXP on reboot) on the guest w/o VT-X/AMD-V off. I hope they fixed it in this new version.

Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by berntb on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @10:35AM (#680823)
Excuse a newbie... is it worth trying Ubuntu on Mac with VirtualBox? What should I know?

(-: Please don't flame me. I might like ports as much as apt, if I knew it better. :-)

Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by jodrellblank on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @10:49AM (#680842)
VirtualBox on the Mac is very nice. A respectably small download, an easy install, a pleasant GUI, it feels very polished and in my light use, both featureful and stable.

Yes, try it.

Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by neilc on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @02:32PM (#681283)
Does anyone have any experience with how VirtualBox performance compares with VMWare?
Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by gsergrtbnhrts on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @03:08PM (#681349)
There is a review here http://www.infoworld.com/d/virtualization/virtualization-sho...

Basically they are all pretty similar, if you use it in a serious environment there are probably more tools and consultants that will tune Vmware server for you, but for ordinary use it's probably a wash.

Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by papaf on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @07:37PM (#681826)
I recently made the change from Macports to Ubuntu on VirtualBox. Things are much nicer now. My one tip would be to have any datafiles separate (ie not read/write files on the Mac filesystem directly - even though you can) and communicate between the two "machines" using version control.
Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by ZeroGravitas on Wednesday July 01, 2009 @04:40AM (#682304)
I think this is the way to go for everyone newbie or not. If you're not going to be deploying on OS X then why develop under it. VirtualBox with your deployment system on Mac OS X gives you the best of all possible worlds.
Re:VirtualBox 3.0 Released by berntb on Wednesday July 01, 2009 @08:06AM (#682473)
I work on Linux, Mac is a hobby.

It is a bit of a failure to go the virtual way, but I have too little background on (modern) bsd stuff.