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Re:Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward... by orik on Tuesday November 26, 2013 @05:25AM (#6800297)
Yeah because how dare any citizen question it's government, right?

/s

Re:Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward... by PixelPusher on Tuesday November 26, 2013 @05:34AM (#6800325)
Are you serious? You can question everything you want as an ordinary citizen. The moment you sign a contract, specially for the military, you agree to keep your word.

So, right, how dare the government hold someone to their word? You're basically advocating lying and not honoring your promises.

BTW - I basically make a living honoring promises and contracts, otherwise we wouldn't have customers ;)

Re:Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward... by 6d0debc071 on Tuesday November 26, 2013 @06:04AM (#6800420)
> You're basically advocating lying and not honoring your promises.

Yes, obviously. There are situations where you ought to lie. The typical example: "Are there any Jews in your basement?"

Decency is more than keeping to the words, sometimes it even requires you break them to keep the spirit of promise. We generally give promises contingent on implied good behaviour from the other parties. When others break their promises the stack built on that mutual honour collapses.

And I'm fine living in the world where that's the way people treat promises, I massively prefer it to the world where people can be tricked into promising something and then have to keep to it when it turns out to be abhorrent.

Re:Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward... by lhnz on Tuesday November 26, 2013 @06:37AM (#6800525)
>> The moment you sign a contract, specially for the military, you agree to keep your word.

It's actually possible to lie or break a promise.

Sometimes the ethics to do so are stronger than the ethics to not do so.

Re:Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward... by betterunix on Tuesday November 26, 2013 @07:16AM (#6800644)
Re:Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward... by Shish2k on Tuesday November 26, 2013 @06:29AM (#6800493)
Yes, if you make two promises, and it later turns out that they were mutually exclusive, I advocate following the laws of physics and breaking one of them.

If you think he chose to break the wrong one, then that might be a valid point, but you seem to be implying that if you were in that position you'd keep both o_O

Re:Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward... by samastur on Tuesday November 26, 2013 @05:48AM (#6800369)
Says a guy who sells ads for a living ;)
Re:Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward... by brdrak on Tuesday November 26, 2013 @02:01PM (#6803371)
How far does this go for you? If, let's say, you witness wrongdoing performed by your employer, would you go along because, well, you promised to do a good job when you interviewed?
Re:Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward... by looser on Tuesday November 26, 2013 @10:18AM (#6801757)
Well, the moment you become part of the state (government), you agree to FOLLOW the constitution. The question here is not who broke "promises", but who acted against the constitution.