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Re:Coin by busterarm on Thursday November 14, 2013 @03:09PM (#6735174)
I want chip and pin cards SO BADLY here.

Mainly because it would make my trips to Europe a lot easier, where many systems I've encountered won't work on some non-EMV cards.

Re:Coin by toomuchtodo on Thursday November 14, 2013 @03:52PM (#6735472)
Re:Coin by busterarm on Thursday November 14, 2013 @03:57PM (#6735509)
I have an AmEx but not Platinum. It's not worth the extra fees to me.

If they get some sense and implement this on their lower-end charge cards, I'd be a pig in shit. I try to have this be the only card I use.

Re:Coin by toomuchtodo on Thursday November 14, 2013 @04:00PM (#6735527)
The chip is available on all of the Amex charge cards, green through platinum. Just ask customer service for it.
Re:Coin by busterarm on Thursday November 14, 2013 @04:59PM (#6735955)
Thought that was all chip-and-signature instead of chip-and-pin.

Chip-and-sig is almost useless.

Also, I'm a stingy bastard with the fabled Unicorn Card (Zync) that's no longer offered. I think any changes would mean a forced upgrade. I'm worried about a forced upgrade when the card expires too.

Re:Coin by archagon on Friday November 15, 2013 @03:25PM (#6741925)
Here's a very thorough spreadsheet from the FlyerTalk forums: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/17837493-post1.html

There are a handful of credit unions that issue dual C&S/C&P cards. It's a little harder to get one than an ordinary card, but probably worth it if you're traveling abroad. (I got one from Andrews.)

Re:Coin by Nursie on Thursday November 14, 2013 @05:05PM (#6735996)
Whether chip and sig is accepted in places around europe will probably depend on the software they have, the merchant's agreement with their acquirer, whether it's an unattended terminal and a bunch of other stuff.

Surprised to hear it's next to useless, but not really surprising that it's less useful.

Re:Coin by archagon on Friday November 15, 2013 @03:27PM (#6741942)
I was up in Canada a few months ago, where EMV cards are ubiquitous. C&S is accepted everywhere, but merchants routinely get confused by the second receipt printing out. I've heard it's the same in Europe.
Re:Coin by flatfilefan on Friday November 15, 2013 @07:30AM (#6739040)
Chip and sig was accepted everywhere I went in Europe this year. I have a European bank issuer though.
Re:Coin by toomuchtodo on Thursday November 14, 2013 @05:02PM (#6735982)
I'm sorry, yes, all the chips on Amex cards are chip and sig, and are just as useless as you describe.
Re:Coin by driverdan on Thursday November 14, 2013 @03:39PM (#6735382)
More and more US banks are starting to issue cards with chip + PIN. My new American Airlines card has it as does my Amex Blue.
Re:Coin by XaspR8d on Thursday November 14, 2013 @05:47PM (#6736255)
I didn't realize European automated machines would basically never accept my cards. On a subsequent trip I tried to get chip card, but neither my personal banker nor the branch manager at Wells Fargo had ever even heard of them and insisted I was confused about the problem.

Shopping for a new bank, for many reasons.

Re:Coin by saryant on Thursday November 14, 2013 @11:53PM (#6737811)
Wells Fargo definitely has chip cards. They shipped me a chip version of my WF credit card out of the blue a while ago.
Re:Coin by busterarm on Thursday November 14, 2013 @07:22PM (#6736828)
Yeah. Wells Fargo is just about the worst bank ever. Even says a WF District Manager I know.
Re:Coin by sbashyal on Thursday November 14, 2013 @04:33PM (#6735769)
Marriott Rewards Credit Card by Chase offers a Chip and Pin card. They also have a 70K sign-up bonus points going on right now. If you are new to Marriott Rewards, send me an e-mail and I can send you a referral that qualifies both of us for bonus points.
Re:Coin by liyanchang on Thursday November 14, 2013 @03:30PM (#6735320)
Chase Sapphire Preferred offers EMV cards[0] and no foriegn exchange charges. Makes a good travel card.

[0] Technically: chip-and-signature rather then chip-and-pin. Also, you have to ask for the EMV but they're super friendly about it.

Re:Coin by toomuchtodo on Thursday November 14, 2013 @03:54PM (#6735484)
I've found my chip and signature Amex Platinum Card to be just as useless in Europe as my old magstrip-only card.
Re:Coin by makomk on Thursday November 14, 2013 @05:07PM (#6736011)
That's surprising; chip and signature exists in part for accessibility reasons and everywhere is meant to accept them.
Re:Coin by busterarm on Thursday November 14, 2013 @05:10PM (#6736034)
I had a really tough time with credit cards in Denmark.

I had one chip & sig card that didn't work except in like one restaurant I went to. A couple of places I could use any regular credit card though. Ended up having to go to ATMs and carry cash, which is so uncommon that people think you're a drug dealer. :D

Re:Coin by freshrap6 on Thursday November 14, 2013 @06:50PM (#6736651)
Bank of America has a similar one too, and it doesn't have a yearly fee.
Re:Coin by encoderer on Friday November 15, 2013 @09:37PM (#6743327)
While I don't have that Chase card, I do know very well that most BofA branded cards have far less lucrative rewards than many of their competitors. FIA has a few great cards and they're owned by BofA. But even when I became a so-called "platinum privileges" bofa customer their best card was not very attractive.

Flat 2% cashback cards are great. Rotating 5% category cards a great. Big signup bonuses are great.

I have a Chase British Air card I opened with a 100,000 mile bonus, plus a companion pass once a certain spending level was reached. Long story shorter, we opened two (one for me, one for my wife). Pooled the miles together. We have 220k miles and a companion pass. We're using this for 2 first class tickets from SFO to Europe in the spring. That is, literally, $25,000 in airfare.

Oh, and it's chip + sig :)

tl;dr Often annual fees are very worth it. And also often, an issuer will waive them in all or part.

Re:Coin by smsm42 on Saturday November 16, 2013 @12:15AM (#6743737)
Citi issues cards with chips now. They have sent me newst one with chip without me even asking.