Pyret: A new programming language from the creators of Racket

Re:Pyret: A new programming language from the creators of Ra... by andrewflnr on Saturday November 09, 2013 @03:39PM (#6703088)

Code bubbles looks cool, but I don't see the connection with your point about clay tablets. Any digital data is, by itself, flat and behavior-less, whether it's in the form of traditional files or some specially-designed backing store for something like Code Bubbles. I don't see any point in really trying to hide that base reality.

I am in favor of giving links between data a more prominent place in our storage systems. I envision a system where the data is mostly fine-grained trees, like sexprs, where hard-links between trees are first-class entities. But at the end of the day it's just an abstraction over a bunch of bytes.

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Re:Pyret: A new programming language from the creators of Ra... by stcredzero on Saturday November 09, 2013 @04:31PM (#6703337)

> Any digital data is, by itself, flat and behavior-less, whether it's in the form of traditional files or some specially-designed backing store for something like Code Bubbles.

I know this is false. You can have a system where everything is an object and carries behavior around with it. We've had those for over 40 years.

> I am in favor of giving links between data a more prominent place in our storage systems.

A "more prominent place?" Isn't this a bit bass-ackwards? Aren't relationships in code where the primary value is?

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Re:Pyret: A new programming language from the creators of Ra... by andrewflnr on Monday November 11, 2013 @07:47PM (#6715145)

The behavior carried around by those objects is ultimately in the form of flat digital data, interpreted by other, more general programs, executed on a CPU. Behavior, when it comes down to it, is a property of silicon, not data. This might seem like a useless distinction, but I don't think it is. I like to keep track of what things are underneath the abstractions.

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