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Re:The PC is not dead, we just don't need new ones by x0054 on Thursday October 24, 2013 @02:33PM (#6607011)
I have seen full size ATX cases from Silverstone with passive cooling, where the entire case is machine out of aluminum and acts like an enormous heat sync. Have yet to find a good fanless power supply. The new Mac Pro supposed to be only 12DB. It's hard to beat that, most rooms have ambient noise of at least 18db.
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Re:The PC is not dead, we just don't need new ones by Havoc on Thursday October 24, 2013 @03:30PM (#6607339)
> The new Mac Pro supposed to be only 12DB.

Until the dust hits it...

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Re:The PC is not dead, we just don't need new ones by x0054 on Thursday October 24, 2013 @05:17PM (#6608042)
Solution: clean it once in a while :)
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Re:The PC is not dead, we just don't need new ones by Havoc on Friday October 25, 2013 @02:04PM (#6613363)
>Solution: clean it once in a while :)

Teach me oh great one. Honestly I've never managed to clean a fan. You can brush off the obvious dust but the noise comes from dust getting into the fan itself.

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Re:The PC is not dead, we just don't need new ones by x0054 on Friday October 25, 2013 @04:57PM (#6614573)
Spray it with compressed air inside and out. You can get into the slit between the fan housing and the motor and blow it out there as well. Most fans start making noise due to bearing failure / wobble, not the dust. I have a small home server with 4 fans. After almost 10 years now 3 out of the 4 fans are as quite as they were on day one, the 4th has developed a bearing issue and needs to be swapped out eventually. I am assuming that Apple will use hire quality fans then the $3 crap fans I am using.
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Re:The PC is not dead, we just don't need new ones by Havoc on Friday October 25, 2013 @06:58PM (#6615260)
>Most fans start making noise due to bearing failure / wobble, not the dust.

That exactly is the issue. They don't just mysteriously develop bearing failure / wobble...they do so because dust gets into the bearings. And that exactly is my point...no amount of compressed air can fix dust in the ball bearing grease. I just end up replacing all the fans after a few years...

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Re:The PC is not dead, we just don't need new ones by mcv on Thursday October 24, 2013 @05:12PM (#6608010)
Seasonic seems to have a pretty good fanless power supply.
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Re:The PC is not dead, we just don't need new ones by wtracy on Thursday October 24, 2013 @08:57PM (#6609134)
There's some complete 'mini' systems that achieve this, presumably by pushing the the transformer out of the computer and into a wall-wart or similar: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/store/Mini_ITX_Systems/533MHz_... http://www.amazon.com/Intel-D2500-Fanless-Mini-ITX-D2500CCE/...

Buying these as stand-alone components seems to be more of a challenge.

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