Amazon says France's new bill is 'discrimination'

Re:Amazon says France's new bill is 'discrimination' by yodsanklai on Thursday October 03, 2013 @01:51PM (#6490615)

I think this is correct, and it applies to several other european countries.

It would be interesting to hear the point of view of people that worked for the same company both in France and the US.

In my opinion, one problem in France is that many (well-paid) jobs are in Paris where housing is getting increasingly expensive. Besides, the layout of the city is such that commuting can be a pain and maybe unavoidable. I think New York is much better from that point of view.

I'm curious, is it possible to negotiate 10 weeks vacations in an american company?

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Re:Amazon says France's new bill is 'discrimination' by nerfhammer on Thursday October 03, 2013 @03:25PM (#6491297)

> I'm curious, is it possible to negotiate 10 weeks vacations in an american company?

You cannot do that for any kind of normal job, no. Maybe you could negotiate 3 weeks at most.

Also a 45 hour work week is now accepted as normal.

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Re:Amazon says France's new bill is 'discrimination' by brok3nmachine on Thursday October 03, 2013 @04:03PM (#6491604)

I just negotiated 4 weeks. Wasn't too difficult, you just have to ask. The funny thing is... I'm likely to pass on the job opportunity, while I stay with my French girlfriend in Paris, building and testing product ideas for a few months =)

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Re:Amazon says France's new bill is 'discrimination' by nerfhammer on Thursday October 03, 2013 @04:23PM (#6491743)

If 3 weeks is normal at the company you're applying for then you might be able to get 4

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Re:Amazon says France's new bill is 'discrimination' by jdjb on Thursday October 03, 2013 @01:59PM (#6490689)

Seriously 10 weeks? We get 10 days here (no joke)..

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Re:Amazon says France's new bill is 'discrimination' by mahyarm on Thursday October 03, 2013 @02:30PM (#6490926)

Yes but those days dont count the weekends, making it 2 weeks.

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Re:Amazon says France's new bill is 'discrimination' by ollysb on Thursday October 03, 2013 @03:02PM (#6491146)

Given that America is a wealthy country that seems incredibly low. The legal minimum in the UK is 5.6 weeks per year.

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Re:Amazon says France's new bill is 'discrimination' by jdjb on Thursday October 03, 2013 @09:46PM (#6493276)

This is Canada but I don't think it's the norm (especially not in tech). 3 weeks is much more reasonable at a new job.

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Re:Amazon says France's new bill is 'discrimination' by yodsanklai on Thursday October 03, 2013 @02:30PM (#6490927)

no, usually it's between 5 and 8 weeks depending on the number of hours worked daily. I just picked 10 as an example.

Of course, salary is then lower than in the US.

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Re:Amazon says France's new bill is 'discrimination' by laxatives on Thursday October 03, 2013 @02:25PM (#6490880)

Yep, Amazon SDE I's start at 2 weeks vacation + 6 days personal time + (6 days sick, in Seattle only)

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Re:Amazon says France's new bill is 'discrimination' by rtpg on Thursday October 03, 2013 @03:17PM (#6491244)

What's the difference between vacation and personal time?

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Re:Amazon says France's new bill is 'discrimination' by mingfli on Thursday October 03, 2013 @03:32PM (#6491348)

Nothing (except in how they accrue, but that's getting very specific). Personal time originally was offered in place of sick days and other floating religious holidays. But Seattle now requires paid sick days, so you now get personal days + sick days.

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Re:Amazon says France's new bill is 'discrimination' by krzyk on Thursday October 03, 2013 @03:54PM (#6491547)

You can't be sick for more than 6 days? What happens if you break a leg?

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Re:Amazon says France's new bill is 'discrimination' by cbr on Thursday October 03, 2013 @09:59PM (#6493315)

I wouldn't expect a broken leg to keep a programmer from working, but if it did then you'd have disability leave, probably paid for by your work via disability insurance.

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