Re:Start unique and drop the “the” – some thoughts on URLs
by drdaeman on Saturday September 28, 2013 @12:01PM
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I'd note that it seems to be Chrome-specific problem. Firefox, for example, searches for any substring matches, not only prefixes (although they seem to reasonably prefer results that are matching on word boundaries).
Re:Start unique and drop the “the” – some thoughts on URLs
by icebraining on Saturday September 28, 2013 @04:09PM
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It is? I've only recently started using a mobile device, but with android's drag-to-form-words mechanism, I can you type "guardian" faster than "gu". I don't know about iOS, though.
Re:Start unique and drop the “the” – some thoughts on URLs
by maldeh on Saturday September 28, 2013 @11:22AM
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That's fair, but is it really so much work to enter three extra keys on a url? That doesn't strike me as a convincing enough reason not to attempt a brand change, if it otherwise makes sense. (Unless there are many frustrated mobile users somewhere who've decided they've put up with long urls far enough!)
Using an article such as "the" in a brand typically indicates a desire to lay stake on a common noun as a proper noun, or at least the definitive instance of the noun. It often doesn't make sense when your brand is obviously a proper noun or otherwise unique already, but I suppose there's plenty enough newspapers having a variant of "Guardian" in their titles to warrant a push to definitive-hood.
Edit: A friend also pointed out that "guardian.com" is already taken by another established organization. I think that trumps my silly grammatical analysis :P
Re:Start unique and drop the “the” – some thoughts on URLs
by dc2447 on Saturday September 28, 2013 @04:39PM
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URLS were and I assume still are a massive part of the collective thought process in the Guardian but yeah, if you are GU then the internet will take whatever you say as canonical to be canonical regardless of seo strategy
Re:Start unique and drop the “the” – some thoughts on URLs
by walshemj on Saturday September 28, 2013 @05:16PM
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didn't work when a major uk job site (no names no pack drill) stuffed up its canonicals on all its job category pages cost them 1/2 a mill in less than a week.
Re:Start unique and drop the “the” – some thoughts on URLs
by EliRivers on Saturday September 28, 2013 @03:44PM
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Are there really people who will decide "I want to read the Guardian now," and then when they find they have to type four or five letters into their browser bar instead of just one, will decide not to bother? It's now too much effort to type four or five keys? (It's possible, I suppose; I am way out of touch and I still don't understand much of what the kids do now - that thing where "Dave is the mayor of some street corner" was a total mystery to me)
Re:Start unique and drop the “the” – some thoughts on URLs
by na85 on Saturday September 28, 2013 @04:50PM
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To you, perhaps. To many tech people, perhaps.
But the Guardian is trying to reach more than that audience, and I'm sure there are lots of "Fox-News Americans" who will scorn the .uk and still find .com to be professional. They have a sense that .com is normal, and that other TLDs are inferior.
Re:Start unique and drop the “the” – some thoughts on URLs
by stevewillows on Saturday September 28, 2013 @06:17PM
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I think this is extremely accurate. I'm launching a new brand next month with a .co and I've found that people that are into tech things like it while the older generations give me a blank stare.
Re:Start unique and drop the “the” – some thoughts on URLs
by stevewillows on Sunday September 29, 2013 @07:00AM
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I think the dot com will be the traditional bet, but over time become one of those 'nice-to-haves' - - with the ridiculous amount of squatting on the most bizarre terms, other tlds are becoming far more attractive.
Above this, the dot co people are making great strides in offering a wide range of benefits to signing on. Not only discounts and freebies, but the potential of a community. In the future, I think more tlds will adopt this model to attract business.
Re:Start unique and drop the “the” – some thoughts on URLs
by oron on Saturday September 28, 2013 @01:05PM
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This was part of my thinking in http://getstarter.com single key navigation to your favorite web sites, but for some reason it seems not to catch on that well.
[0] No longer there but still think of GU very fondly
I do swipe on occasion, though. Depends if I am using two or one thumb.
Using an article such as "the" in a brand typically indicates a desire to lay stake on a common noun as a proper noun, or at least the definitive instance of the noun. It often doesn't make sense when your brand is obviously a proper noun or otherwise unique already, but I suppose there's plenty enough newspapers having a variant of "Guardian" in their titles to warrant a push to definitive-hood.
Edit: A friend also pointed out that "guardian.com" is already taken by another established organization. I think that trumps my silly grammatical analysis :P
Will be interesting to have a look and see how well or not the in house seo/dev team have done the migration
In any case, all the cool kids use gu.com
Sad to see the Guardian go to a .com
But the Guardian is trying to reach more than that audience, and I'm sure there are lots of "Fox-News Americans" who will scorn the .uk and still find .com to be professional. They have a sense that .com is normal, and that other TLDs are inferior.
Above this, the dot co people are making great strides in offering a wide range of benefits to signing on. Not only discounts and freebies, but the potential of a community. In the future, I think more tlds will adopt this model to attract business.
Yeah yeah..!