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Re:An Apology From TechCrunch by rfnslyr on Sunday September 08, 2013 @07:18PM (#6350915)
Sorry but I really think everyone should collectively loosen up.
Re:An Apology From TechCrunch by jessedhillon on Sunday September 08, 2013 @07:26PM (#6350952)
Hear hear.

For example, I always drop the n-word when I'm walking around. People should be more like me, I don't get offended by that kind of language, why should anyone else? Sometimes people do, and I'm like, "What? Why're you getting so offended? I'm not offended, why are you?"

I'm kidding. I don't ask "why are you?" -- that doesn't matter LOL 8-)

For some reason, black people get especially offended at this kind of stuff. No clue why. I mean, I don't get offended and that's literally the only thing that matters when considering whether something should or shouldn't be said. Not the audience, the venue or the event.

Literally, only my own sensibilities matter. Everyone else should loosen up. Like me.

Re:An Apology From TechCrunch by e40 on Sunday September 08, 2013 @07:57PM (#6351083)
Your reply would be entire spot on if the word "tit" and the n-word were equivalent. One is a body part that both men and women share. The other is a racially charged word that has more than a century of really bad history behind it. And, see how both you and I couldn't say the n-word? That's a tip off that it's not the same. I have tits. Yes, they are man-tits but they are tits nonetheless. The n-word, however, isn't something I'll be caught saying except in very specific company (explaining the history to my 12 yr old, for example).

I can't say I agree with the GP post, since I didn't see the presentations being discussed, but I know your comment is off base.

Re:An Apology From TechCrunch by jessedhillon on Sunday September 08, 2013 @08:05PM (#6351124)
The point is not "N-word == Tits"

The point is that, you, the reader, obviously understand that a word, concept or type of behavior can offend others and would therefore abstain from employing it. Or at least exercise judgment in doing so, because you understand that you have a measure of responsibility when speaking publicly.

The inanity of GP's comments is staggering. He is literally saying that because he, himself, is not offended by such humor that everyone else should similarly relax their sensibilities.

If you understand that some language and behavior can offend others, even if you personally are not offended by it, then you already get the point of my argument. If you fixate on disproving the (not-claimed) equivalency between racial slurs and an app about breast obsession -- then you have missed the point.

Re:An Apology From TechCrunch by rfnslyr on Sunday September 08, 2013 @08:27PM (#6351187)
The point is that, you, the reader, obviously understand that a word, concept or type of behavior can offend others and would therefore abstain from employing it.

What this really means is that it's not you who should take responsibility for your emotions, it's everyone else that should watch out for you.

What exactly did you get offended by? If you claim that prank was sexist in any way, you clearly lack the ability to judge a situation and its context.

Re:An Apology From TechCrunch by jessedhillon on Sunday September 08, 2013 @08:33PM (#6351204)
Totally agree dude. That's my stand when I drop racial slurs ("slurs" am I right?)

It's not my job to know which words are going to upset another person's emotional state! I'm not a mind reader! My responsibility is only to say what I want.

Seriously though -- it's absolutely-fucking-hilarious that you think I'm the one lacking situational awareness. The guys who got up and made boob jokes? Total awareness, perhaps even masters of humor.

People who are offended, or can see why it would be particularly offensive to some women -- no awareness. Amazing.

Re:An Apology From TechCrunch by rfnslyr on Sunday September 08, 2013 @08:38PM (#6351214)
Get to the point and state exactly why you got offended.
Re:An Apology From TechCrunch by jessedhillon on Sunday September 08, 2013 @08:51PM (#6351255)
I never said I was offended, and that doesn't matter. You said that people should not be offended, and the only reasoning you offered for this was that you thought it was funny. My point is that your singular perspective of the humor is not alone sufficient in determining whether or not it's appropriate for the audience, or whether other people are appropriately offended.

You appear to be saying that simply because you are not offended, nobody else should be -- which is an incredibly stupid position to hold. I don't care to explain to you why breast obsession apps and mock-stroking in front of and all over an audience are offensive to others. I doubt you would get it anyway.

Re:An Apology From TechCrunch by rfnslyr on Sunday September 08, 2013 @07:46PM (#6351043)
Yes because tit is exactly like saying "nigger".
Re:An Apology From TechCrunch by jessedhillon on Sunday September 08, 2013 @07:53PM (#6351064)
I'd love to hear what you think are the salient differences between getting up and presenting Titstare, and showing something fictitious like "N-watcher"

Evidently your reaction if someone got up to present the latter would not be "LOL guys loosen up!" -- even though you are not someone at whom the humor/offense is targeted. Why the difference in attitude?

Re:An Apology From TechCrunch by clarkm on Sunday September 08, 2013 @08:04PM (#6351118)
The problem with that comparison is that I can easily imagine some spoof "Racial Profiler!" app being showcased as a joke. Perhaps an app that allows Atherton residents to report "suspicious" behavior.

But I guess the larger lesson here is: do not try these things unless you're The Onion, SNL, or Key and Peele.

Re:An Apology From TechCrunch by alsothings on Monday September 09, 2013 @04:13AM (#6352341)
I mean, this http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/09/the-re... was not comedy and it happend all of a few days ago.
Re:An Apology From TechCrunch by metaphorm on Sunday September 08, 2013 @08:32PM (#6351203)
I bet you go from 0 to Hitler in under 6 seconds.
Re:An Apology From TechCrunch by jessedhillon on Sunday September 08, 2013 @08:40PM (#6351222)
Central to your comment is that you are comparing my post to a Hitler/holocaust argument. Ironically then, you have invoked Godwin's Law.
Re:An Apology From TechCrunch by metaphorm on Sunday September 08, 2013 @08:49PM (#6351249)
no, I'm saying you are the sort of person who thoroughly enjoys self-righteousness and making baseless accusations about (your perception of) the beliefs of others.
Re:An Apology From TechCrunch by rfnslyr on Sunday September 08, 2013 @08:22PM (#6351169)
Not going to bother continuing a conversation with someone who gets as offended by tits as they do the word "nigger".
Re:An Apology From TechCrunch by jessedhillon on Sunday September 08, 2013 @08:28PM (#6351191)
Such a noble stand!

You're not stupid, you get the point no matter how obtuse you're pretending to be. You know that I'm not saying that "tits == N-word" and you know that such an equivalency is not central to or required for my example.

You simply don't want to admit that the only explanation of your position is to say "well black people have a right to get offended by the N-word, but women aren't allowed to object to breasts being objectified."

Re:An Apology From TechCrunch by rfnslyr on Sunday September 08, 2013 @08:36PM (#6351208)
The prank wasn't brought to light with the intention of offending women. It's a play on an activity with men, we look at boobs. Not everything involving sex is made with the objective of targeting someone, it's just a joke. If you fail to see it as such, that's your problem.
Re:An Apology From TechCrunch by jessedhillon on Sunday September 08, 2013 @08:45PM (#6351237)
Right on. I have some white friends who, when there aren't any black people around, call each other the n-word. They're not targeting any particular black person, so obviously the behavior is completely acceptable. It's a joke, you know, a play on actual racist behavior.

If you fail to see it as such, that's your problem.

The good thing about this position is that you lack such self-awareness that you would never know the extent to which your limited perceptual abilities cripple you. The bad thing is that you likely do understand the objections here, and are therefore a keyboard jockey. Accordingly, you would never have the courage to make such a ludicrous stand in a public, mixed audience, thereby giving others a fair, advance bozo alert.

Re:An Apology From TechCrunch by rfnslyr on Sunday September 08, 2013 @09:15PM (#6351320)
Hahaha wow whatever you need to tell yourself to feel better.
Re:An Apology From TechCrunch by rhizome on Sunday September 08, 2013 @07:58PM (#6351090)
Well, aren't we edgy.
Re:An Apology From TechCrunch by estel on Sunday September 08, 2013 @07:25PM (#6350946)
Or, just maybe, you should care about the sort of atmosphere and culture that this app contributes to just that bit more.
Re:An Apology From TechCrunch by cpayne on Sunday September 08, 2013 @07:29PM (#6350963)
It really depends on how you view the event. If it is just a bunch of blokes hanging out, I can see (but do not agree!) with your point of view.

If you see it is as even a semi professional event, then I do know how you could justify it.

Re:An Apology From TechCrunch by roguecoder on Monday September 09, 2013 @03:51PM (#6355707)
If professional events are "just a bunch of blokes hanging out", that's a pretty good example of how an industry could be systematically sexist.