Judge sentences Bradley Manning to 35 years

Re:Judge sentences Bradley Manning to 35 years by gizzlon on Wednesday August 21, 2013 @11:02AM (#6250780)

So, once you put on that uniform you have to keep your mouth shut even if you witness the worst atrocities imaginable. Is that your opinion? If it is not, where do you draw the line?

When is it okay to break the loyalty for the greater good?

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Re:Judge sentences Bradley Manning to 35 years by majelix on Wednesday August 21, 2013 @11:15AM (#6250885)

> So, once you put on that uniform you have to keep your mouth shut even if you witness the worst atrocities imaginable.

Absolutely not. But you don't have to shout every secret you have access to (relevant or not) from the loudest possible podium either.

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Re:Judge sentences Bradley Manning to 35 years by gizzlon on Wednesday August 21, 2013 @11:54AM (#6251173)

Agreed, but since he did expose some pretty nasty stuff, maybe we should cut him some slack and focus on the real villains?

It's now, according to the actions of these justice systems, worse to expose secrets about crimes than to commit actual crimes. The simplest way of interpreting this is that these crimes are not viewed as crimes at all. But blowing the whistle is.

(edited for clarity)

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Re:Judge sentences Bradley Manning to 35 years by jasonlotito on Wednesday August 21, 2013 @06:46PM (#6253808)

> Agreed, but since he did expose some pretty nasty stuff, maybe we should cut him some slack and focus on the real villains?

Maybe that's why he only got 35 years. More importantly, what unconstitutional thing did he release?

But really, that argument is basically saying that collateral damage is acceptable. Innocents can be destroyed if you kill just one guilty party.

> worse to expose secrets about crimes than to commit actual crimes.

Well no, he committed actual crimes that lead to actual suffering and death by intelligence agents.

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Re:Judge sentences Bradley Manning to 35 years by sp332 on Wednesday August 21, 2013 @11:18AM (#6250908)

You should at least attempt to follow the chain of command before deciding to break it.

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Re:Judge sentences Bradley Manning to 35 years by Dylan16807 on Wednesday August 21, 2013 @12:21PM (#6251392)

Even when they're guaranteed to deny you and take away your copies of all the evidence?

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Re:Judge sentences Bradley Manning to 35 years by mpyne on Wednesday August 21, 2013 @08:47PM (#6254357)

They didn't deny the person who leaked about Abu Ghraib.

Nor the Pfc. who leaked details of a heinous rape/murder/arson committed by U.S. troops in Iraq.

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