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Re:Feds seized $2.9M from Mt. Gox, court docs show by CoreSet on Monday August 19, 2013 @08:48PM (#6240924)
Doesn't the technical architecture of the Bitcoin system make the seizure of actual Bitcoins by a third-party impossible or at least very difficult?
Re:Feds seized $2.9M from Mt. Gox, court docs show by dwaltrip on Monday August 19, 2013 @09:01PM (#6240975)
Yeah definitely more difficult, but it depends on the storage mechanism. But I suppose even if you simply had a private key hidden in some random folder or written down somewhere (there are more secure ways - one is breaking a key into multiple parts and spreading to separate people), it would be hard to locate or identify.
Re:Feds seized $2.9M from Mt. Gox, court docs show by synchronise on Monday August 19, 2013 @09:18PM (#6241050)
It also depends on what possible legal action those parties might have taken against them for not complying with a disclosure request on those funds.
Re:Feds seized $2.9M from Mt. Gox, court docs show by CoreSet on Monday August 19, 2013 @09:25PM (#6241082)
So basically: "we can't find your money so you're going to jail unless you find it for us?"

I was talking to a friend about encryption the other day and that was his salient point. Unbreakable key? Break it or go to jail.

Re:Feds seized $2.9M from Mt. Gox, court docs show by qq66 on Monday August 19, 2013 @10:10PM (#6241265)
"Break it or go to jail" is already established law that pre-dates computers ("open this combination safe or go to jail"), but courts have generally held that this law also applies to encryption keys.
Re:Feds seized $2.9M from Mt. Gox, court docs show by derekp7 on Tuesday August 20, 2013 @02:12PM (#6245474)
And if the contents of the safe are written in code, or some made up language that the courts don't understand, can they compel you to translate them?
Re:Feds seized $2.9M from Mt. Gox, court docs show by qq66 on Tuesday August 20, 2013 @02:43PM (#6245713)
Yes, they can. This has also been true for hundreds of years.
Re:Feds seized $2.9M from Mt. Gox, court docs show by lucb1e on Monday August 19, 2013 @09:47PM (#6241182)
Physical security is an integral part of information security. But if governments start doing things like that, what kind of country are we living in?
Re:Feds seized $2.9M from Mt. Gox, court docs show by anewthrowaww on Monday August 19, 2013 @10:16PM (#6241286)
Re:Feds seized $2.9M from Mt. Gox, court docs show by Lazare on Monday August 19, 2013 @11:41PM (#6241581)
As always, relevant XKCD: http://xkcd.com/538/
Re:Feds seized $2.9M from Mt. Gox, court docs show by CoreSet on Monday August 19, 2013 @09:14PM (#6241034)
I suppose the bitcoin ethos of a decentralized network - with no single vulnerable point of attack - breaks down once you consider that until you can buy groceries, pay rent, and just generally use the currency everywhere, there's always the last point of vulnerability: wherever you convert it to "actual" money.

But maybe that's an unfair assessment.

Re:Feds seized $2.9M from Mt. Gox, court docs show by dwaltrip on Monday August 19, 2013 @09:32PM (#6241120)
For a non-governmental currency that hasn't yet had its 5th birthday, I think bitcoin is doing decently well in terms of merchant acceptance. My personal opinion is that broad merchant acceptance will only come after it is widely used for investment/asset protection (if ever, of course). One indication for this idea is the magnitude by which forex volumes dwarf actual GDP. But it's all speculation :)
Re:Feds seized $2.9M from Mt. Gox, court docs show by stordoff on Tuesday August 20, 2013 @01:20PM (#6245112)
Actually seizing the Bitcoins would be very difficult, but there is (AFAIK) nothing stopping the Courts ordering a person not to deal with or dispose of the Bitcoins (or else be in contempt of court).