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Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by ry0ohki on Thursday August 08, 2013 @04:55PM (#6181836)
It seems like the most secure way to send a message these days might be snail mail. While I know the feds to open it from time to time in specific cases, they definitely don't open all.
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by jes5199 on Thursday August 08, 2013 @04:56PM (#6181847)
no, they don't open the mail, but they scan all the addresses as part of their routing process. We should assume that all postal "metadata" is stored forever.
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by gemma on Thursday August 08, 2013 @05:00PM (#6181878)
As a veteran of the USPS software industry, I wouldn't worry too much.
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by shitgoose on Thursday August 08, 2013 @08:47PM (#6183002)
hilarious!! since we on the subject, are there any veterans of NSA software industry who can share some insight?
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by Achshar on Friday August 09, 2013 @07:30AM (#6184965)
I assume they would be under some sort of NDA.
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by simonebrunozzi on Thursday August 08, 2013 @05:19PM (#6181998)
LOL :)
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by gsibble on Thursday August 08, 2013 @07:08PM (#6182610)
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by eplanit on Thursday August 08, 2013 @05:19PM (#6181996)
There is a lot to be said for Snail Mail in that regard. There are far more privacy guarantees (i.e. clearly defined requirements for warrants, and stricter terms) relative to electronic forms of communications.
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by ptwiggens on Thursday August 08, 2013 @05:34PM (#6182100)
They take a photo of the front and back of every piece of mail that is sent. Your content is safe, but they still get the metadata.
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by thetrb on Thursday August 08, 2013 @06:34PM (#6182447)
Couldn't you just leave off the return address? In this case there's not much metadata to collect except for the recipient address.
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by jobigoud on Friday August 09, 2013 @06:20AM (#6184753)
I did a fun experiment once. I wrote the actual recipient address in the return address place, and put a non existant address in the front. I also didn't stamp it. It did arrive to the recipient 2 weeks later, with a "return to sender" banner.
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by jsymolon on Friday August 09, 2013 @09:21AM (#6185399)
Working in the mailing business and dealing with the USPS carriers; they are not dummies (the usual people warning here) and if someone gets curious on why so many pieces arrive at a certain address w/o postage, I would expect that address to get flagged for a special looksee.
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by riquito on Thursday August 08, 2013 @07:48PM (#6182768)
You can also fake the "from" address in an e-mail, and send it from somewhere in the world via vpn