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Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by Kelet on Thursday August 08, 2013 @03:20PM (#6181144)
Crap, I had just recently migrated all of my accounts to my new Lavabit address, paid for a year of service, etc.

Although I've seen some mentioned, what recommendations does HN have for a new e-mail service? Preferably something stable and also respecting of a user's privacy. Or perhaps you can only have 1 of the aforementioned attributes.

Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by mllerustad on Thursday August 08, 2013 @03:45PM (#6181354)
This is why I contributed to Mailpile(http://www.mailpile.is/)'s fundraiser and hang out in their IRC channel. We need more, better, easy-to-use distributed, crypto-friendly mail software, and we need them yesterday. :/
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by jerfelix on Thursday August 08, 2013 @03:55PM (#6181424)
bitmessage may be our only hope.
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by nwh on Thursday August 08, 2013 @08:28PM (#6182936)
Bitmessage is fairly atrocious to use in practise. It's slow (by design) and extremely difficult to use properly. Moreover, I'd bet my hat that it's not secure.
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by aleksis on Thursday August 08, 2013 @03:26PM (#6181185)
I just lost access to my primary email account.
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by Kelet on Thursday August 08, 2013 @03:28PM (#6181206)
Me too. It took a long time to update all of my account information for every website and service I use. It took me a long time to get all of my friends, colleagues, etc. notified that I had switched.

I now have a trail of being under my Lavabit account. Commits, patches, websites, services, friends all thinking I'm still under that account. Now I've got to do it once again, only a few weeks later.

Sigh. I can't blame Lavabit really. Just a situation I'd hope to avoid.

Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by computer on Thursday August 08, 2013 @03:33PM (#6181247)
That's a nightmare. However, I do feel strongly that lavabit made the only right choice. The US government is entirely to blame.
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Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by computer on Thursday August 08, 2013 @03:50PM (#6181390)
Actually, I don't think so, if he was a paying user. Everything on-disk was encrypted for paying users, and since lavabit had to shut down completely to not "be complicit in a crime against the American public", I assume that the NSL wanted them to make a change like Hushmail did in the past, to send the user's password to the server on the next login so that they can decrypt all emails.
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by nwp90 on Thursday August 08, 2013 @05:29PM (#6182064)
I would assume that the NSA had already forcibly installed something that would compromise all further access to lavabit mail. Therefore the only option that doesn't reveal data is immediate shutdown.
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by sneak on Thursday August 08, 2013 @04:37PM (#6181713)
That's not how Lavabit worked.
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by unethical_ban on Thursday August 08, 2013 @03:32PM (#6181238)
Do what I do!

I have my own domain name, currently hosting with Google Apps. If I get the motivation to move to another host like myself, I can do it without changing contact information.

Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by sigkill on Thursday August 08, 2013 @04:23PM (#6181632)
Yeah, I thank my stars that I had the sense to do this almost 2 years ago. It really is much better. Another neat hack of using your custom domain is when people ask for your email address you can make one up without you appearing in their chat list. So for instance on Google Talk you're registered as [email protected], you could simply give them [email protected] so they can still converse with you (catch-alls ftw) yet they don't annoyingly appear on your Talk list.

And yeah, changing providers is just a matter of altering a field or two in the host records page.

Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by a3n on Thursday August 08, 2013 @03:43PM (#6181341)
Yes, absolutely. Everyone here should do this.

Never have your identity tied to a mere provider.

Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by throwit1979 on Thursday August 08, 2013 @03:42PM (#6181330)
Oh good, because Google will never be subject to an NSL.
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by unethical_ban on Thursday August 08, 2013 @04:19PM (#6181601)
At the moment, I accept the danger and resent myself for it. Moving to a custom domain is one step in the process, though.

And really, since all your email hops through relays constantly, the only truly effective anti-spy technology is message encryption, which wouldn't depend on where the messages end up.

Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by sneak on Thursday August 08, 2013 @04:50PM (#6181803)
Everyone you converse with uses gmail.
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by MrKurtz on Thursday August 08, 2013 @05:41PM (#6182135)
At least they're transparent (as one can be) about it: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2013/03/transparency-report-s...
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by aet on Thursday August 08, 2013 @04:04PM (#6181502)
Did you get a refund?
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by aleksis on Friday August 09, 2013 @08:58AM (#6185290)
I did pay in advance for few years but I wont ask for a refund, I will consider it as a donation for those legal battles.
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by mnml_ on Friday August 09, 2013 @02:35PM (#6187468)
Ok thats your choice however the company wasn't liquidated so they should refund their customers who are asking.
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by poulson on Thursday August 08, 2013 @03:26PM (#6181194)
I'm in the exact same position. It's quite frustrating.

EDIT: I turned my frustration into a $100 donation to his legal defense. I hope that more people do the same.

Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by marssaxman on Thursday August 08, 2013 @03:42PM (#6181326)
Run your own server, on your own hardware?
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Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by throwit1979 on Thursday August 08, 2013 @03:26PM (#6181190)
Which will work fine until countermail gets an NSL too.

Hosting your own, in your physical posession, with mercury-switch or dead-man-switch triggered thermite self-destruct is really the only option left.

Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by aet on Thursday August 08, 2013 @04:07PM (#6181518)
And, snail mail.
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by lightbritefight on Thursday August 08, 2013 @04:53PM (#6181829)
Funny how the Fourth amendment still applies to the primary form of communication we don't use.