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Re:Blink tag removed from Firefox by Natsu on Tuesday August 06, 2013 @11:57PM (#6170734)
Yeah, they're trying to remove the settings that people set to goof up their browsers from the look of this. There's this one, too:

"Load images automatically" and Always show the tab bar" checkboxes removed from preferences and reset to defaults

Re:Blink tag removed from Firefox by panhandlr on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @12:26AM (#6170827)
Let this day go down in history as the day we declared our independence from the tyrannical Mozilla organization and their corporate-interest driven and oppressive removal of our freedoms and ability to customize our browser. We shall not be stricken down by their restrictive and non-representational releases of firefox... instead we choose to be empowered by the option to disable things such as javascript, and tabbed browsing because we understand these options to be self-evident truths for all browser users.

I am tired of having my freedoms stripped from my browser without any representation into the process. As a user of the browser I was not adequately informed of the upcoming changes nor was I given an opportunity to choose not to upgrade.

THIS MUST END

Contact me for further information, the revolution begins today.

Re:Blink tag removed from Firefox by ryanpetrich on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @12:35AM (#6170859)
If you don't like the direction the Mozilla Corporation is taking Firefox, you're free to disable automatic updates, revert to a previous version of the browser, or even fork your own version of Firefox. It's not tyrannical to want new versions of Firefox to present a better user experience and be less confusing to everyday users.
Re:Blink tag removed from Firefox by marshray on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @01:52AM (#6171115)
... and not receive security patches.
Re:Blink tag removed from Firefox by sp332 on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @07:06AM (#6171978)
Version 17 is the Extended Support Release and still gets security patches. Or, "I had those security holes right where I wanted them! Quit breaking my browser grr!"
Re:Blink tag removed from Firefox by zobzu on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @12:36AM (#6170862)
there's bugs for each of these (which are open to the world and anyone can comment) all you have to do is to take a stance during the process. harder to do so after a bunch of various people (employed or not by mozilla) decided something.

pretty sure those options went off because enough people decided that the preferences/option panel was too complicated and these were the ones that telemetry indicated were the least used.

Re:Blink tag removed from Firefox by caf on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @03:11AM (#6171304)
I would not be at all surprised if there was a high correlation between "People who turned off Javascript" and "People who declined to provide telemetry", so there could be some selection bias in those results.
Re:Blink tag removed from Firefox by ishansharma on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @04:04AM (#6171458)
People who understand what that setting did can still disable by going to about:config!

This is not a conspiracy, just making browser hard to break for people who check boxes and forget about these. For those, browser is broken!

Those who know what disabling JavaScript actually does still have a way to disable! Where does all the privacy talk come in between?

Re:Blink tag removed from Firefox by Natsu on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @11:02PM (#6177123)
NoScript is a much better option all around. I know I've been using it since forever.

When I got my last company laptop without all these things set, I was surprised how painful it was to try and download anything without a proper adblocker and noscript. I don't know how people do it.

Re:Blink tag removed from Firefox by zobzu on Thursday August 08, 2013 @06:30PM (#6182430)
that's a good point
Re:Blink tag removed from Firefox by chris_wot on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @02:52AM (#6171258)
Bugzilla is not your personal soapbox. The revolution is a damp squib.
Re:Blink tag removed from Firefox by marblar on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @12:56AM (#6170921)
Surely he was kidding?
Re:Blink tag removed from Firefox by panhandlr on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @01:06AM (#6170969)
This is no joke brother... We will not rest until this issue is heard in the highest of courts. First they came for our <blink> tags and we laughed... then they came for our options to disable tabbed browser, and they said nothing... then they came for our option to not be tracked by online advertising agencies (javascript) and everyone was too busy sharing kitten photos on facebook to say a damned thing.
Re:Blink tag removed from Firefox by mirkules on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @01:16AM (#6170997)
Yeah. It's satire about overreactions that are so prevalent on many tech sites (including this one). Colbert would be proud.
Re:Blink tag removed from Firefox by panhandlr on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @01:24AM (#6171030)
We have already begun to gather near Mozilla HQ in San Francisco...

https://socialcam.com/v/39HPvZde

Protesters can be heard chanting:

"WHAT DO WE WANT?"

"The ability to disable tabbed browsing"

"WHEN DO WE WANT IT"

"Possibly in the next point release, but the next major is cool too"

Re:Blink tag removed from Firefox by InclinedPlane on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @05:19AM (#6171687)
Are you being serious or is this supposed to be a joke?
Re:Blink tag removed from Firefox by pitterpatter on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @12:39AM (#6170871)
Exactly, and if you're so inclined to have those options set in a certain (and don't want to do so through some other addon like NoScript) you can set it in about:config.
Re:Blink tag removed from Firefox by panhandlr on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @12:58AM (#6170933)
The primary problem is that the about:config flag for hiding tabs is ineffective so there is more to the solution than just looking deeper into the config menus.

I agree that these options are for power users, but my fear is that soon after they relegate the ability to disable javascript to the bowels of the application, they will soon remove it entirely. And that this decision is in fact not driven just by the fact that it is seldom used, but driven more-so by the corporate interests they hold with advertising and other online entities that serve not for the browser users, but their own corporate interests. This fundamentally collides with the intent of the Mozilla foundations purpose and this behavior must stop.

The ability to disable javascript has been on the main screen of the options panel because it serves a very important purpose.

Also the ability to not show tabs when browsing a single web page because for that use case, it is more optimal to not show a tab and waste the screen real estate on dead space.

They have fundamentally altered the Firefox browser in a fundamental way that is not configurable and have not provided reasonable alternative.

I refuse to accept any so called "Add-On". These features are not to be pushed off into to the extremities of the community and be forgot about. I firmly believe that any such browser serving only the interests of the user would see these features as being non-optional options and should exist in perpetuity for the life of that software.

Re:Blink tag removed from Firefox by ars on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @12:51AM (#6170906)
> Always show the tab bar

Which way I'd this one going to go? On or of? And the fact that I have to ask tells me that maybe they should not have removed the option.

Re:Blink tag removed from Firefox by notatoad on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @01:31AM (#6171052)
Tab bar will be always visible. The fact that you have to ask means nothing, because you are one person. Decisions get made based on data, not anecdotes.
Re:Blink tag removed from Firefox by ars on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @03:12AM (#6171307)
The fact that I have to ask means I have no way to predict which they consider "better". It could have just as easily gone the other way.

Personally I'm glad it's in the visible direction though.

An option should only be removed if the "better" way is obvious.

Re:Blink tag removed from Firefox by pbhjpbhj on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @04:35AM (#6171561)
Any ideas where the data is that showed this move was positive? Is all the browser usage data open?