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Re: Got an account on a site like Github? Hackers may know y... by Smerity on Thursday August 01, 2013 @12:22AM (#6138621)
Singling out GitHub seems silly. If you're on GitHub, have a .gitconfig with name + email, and you've made a commit, then that's all public.

If a site uses your Gravatar, game over: Gravatar's literally a raw MD5 of your email with the aim to give you a globally identifiable avatar. That's been known (documented!) for a long time and unlikely to be a surprise to many of us here.

The only place this is likely to be an issue is when a site knows you but you assume you're anonymous. If you're using a web service where you want to be anonymous, connecting anything with your identity is a bad idea.

Re: Got an account on a site like Github? Hackers may know y... by martey on Thursday August 01, 2013 @01:00AM (#6138768)
> The only place this is likely to be an issue is when a site knows you but you assume you're anonymous. If you're using a web service where you want to be anonymous, connecting anything with your identity is a bad idea.

While I wish the article headline mentioned Gravatar as opposed to Github, I think it is worth realizing that Github provides instructions to use a fake email address in your .gitconfig to protect your privacy [1] while simultaneously requiring you to provide a valid email address while setting up your account. [2]

[1]: https://help.github.com/articles/keeping-your-email-address-...

[2]: https://help.github.com/articles/github-terms-of-service#a-a...

Re: Got an account on a site like Github? Hackers may know y... by scdoshi on Thursday August 01, 2013 @12:33AM (#6138672)
Exactly what I was thinking. If you commit to github, your account email is already public.
Re: Got an account on a site like Github? Hackers may know y... by walesmd on Thursday August 01, 2013 @01:20AM (#6138823)
Isn't this public knowledge? "Oh no! 'Hackers' have my oh-so-sacred email address! Yeah, that thing on all of my sites, business cards, dozens of whois records, resumes, speaker decks, the Dominoes online ordering system, and so on... What shall I ever do?"

I'd seriously question their talent if they weren't able to find it.

Re: Got an account on a site like Github? Hackers may know y... by warp on Thursday August 01, 2013 @04:23AM (#6139210)
Yes, developers have known about this problem for years.

But Gravatar and sites using Gravatar are terrible at explaining these risks to less technical users. Those users have an expectation of privacy when a site claims they won't share their e-mail address with anyone. No one has told them how incredibly easy it is to verify that their user account on one of the sites they use is the same person as a user account on a different site.

Re: Got an account on a site like Github? Hackers may know y... by cbhl on Thursday August 01, 2013 @12:31AM (#6138668)
The article title is link bait. The article is about Gravatar, and GitHub only matters because it utilizes Gravatar.

(Your email address may be visible in all sorts of other ways on GitHub, such as when someone does git log on a public git repository.)

If you're worried about your Gravatar being matched to your inflammatory (i.e., trolling) Hacker News or WordPress comments, you probably should be using a separate email account and Tor and whatnot.

Re: Got an account on a site like Github? Hackers may know y... by jff on Thursday August 01, 2013 @12:30AM (#6138664)
My email address? Oh god no!
Re: Got an account on a site like Github? Hackers may know y... by chrischen on Thursday August 01, 2013 @02:38AM (#6139011)

   slawmaster at... that google email provider.

I managed to decode that after a few hours of brute forcing. You should apply some stronger obfuscation methods.
Re: Got an account on a site like Github? Hackers may know y... by zalew on Thursday August 01, 2013 @12:31AM (#6138670)
I just hacked your hn profile, expect me sending you an email.
Re: Got an account on a site like Github? Hackers may know y... by WayneDB on Thursday August 01, 2013 @02:22AM (#6138965)
[In the voice of Steven Wright]:

I'd like to get an email address that nobody knows. That way when I don't get any email, I won't be disappointed...

Re: Got an account on a site like Github? Hackers may know y... by thejosh on Thursday August 01, 2013 @12:13AM (#6138593)
Doesn't github also store it in a json response?
Re: Got an account on a site like Github? Hackers may know y... by cmelbye on Thursday August 01, 2013 @02:17AM (#6138954)
Re: Got an account on a site like Github? Hackers may know y... by Aqua_Geek on Thursday August 01, 2013 @03:04AM (#6139050)
IIRC, your email only comes back from the API if you've entered something into the "Email (will be public)" field in your profile. They also allow you to use a separate email for Gravatar.
Re: Got an account on a site like Github? Hackers may know y... by zalew on Thursday August 01, 2013 @12:16AM (#6138600)
the gravatar email recovery hack has been known for years, they are recycling an old topic.

luckily my email isn't a secret as I publish it everywhere willingly.

Re: Got an account on a site like Github? Hackers may know y... by jdubs on Thursday August 01, 2013 @12:25AM (#6138636)
The problem is that since they know your email address, they can find your email from leaked databases... Then try that password to own your repo...
Re: Got an account on a site like Github? Hackers may know y... by zalew on Thursday August 01, 2013 @12:30AM (#6138667)
what password?
Re: Got an account on a site like Github? Hackers may know y... by asperous on Thursday August 01, 2013 @02:57AM (#6139041)
Assuming:

* A hacker has a leaked database

* Your email and password are in this database

* Your public email is the same one used in the database

* Plain-text passwords are easy to extract from this leaked databases

* You use the same password and email combination other places

* Other places with that email/password don't use two-step authentication

Then if they have your email they can get your password and try it other places

Re: Got an account on a site like Github? Hackers may know y... by kintamanimatt on Thursday August 01, 2013 @05:20AM (#6139329)
> You use the same password and email combination other places

This is the problem. Every password for every account you create should be unique. Bonus points if you use a unique email alias for every account you create too.

Re: Got an account on a site like Github? Hackers may know y... by warcode on Thursday August 01, 2013 @02:54AM (#6139032)
That one single password you use on all webpages, clearly.
Re: Got an account on a site like Github? Hackers may know y... by deadslow on Thursday August 01, 2013 @01:07AM (#6138791)
Post something new.