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Re:Google Chromecast by jcampbell1 on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @02:27PM (#6098085)
> Power cord required (not shown).

What the hell is this about a "power cord". The specs and details are totally not clear. Is this not powered by HDMI? If it requires a power cord, these images are deceptive marketing.

Re:Google Chromecast by Recoil42 on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @02:40PM (#6098172)
Only MHL HDMI is capable of providing power, AFAIK. 'Regular' HDMI is capable of data transmission only.

A power cord is included in the box, according to The Verge. You can power it either via one of your TV's USB ports, or an A/C jack: http://cdn2.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/8651957/2013-07-...

Re:Google Chromecast by RealGeek on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @07:10PM (#6099783)
"The power adapter is an optional requirement. In fact, most modern TV's with HDMI 1.4 or higher spec are supported. The Chromecast can draw power from the HDMI port it's plugged into. If your TV doesn't support that, there's also a USB cable and power adapter included in the box. I have a 2012 LG LED and a 2013 Lenovo 27" Monitor with HDMI input and the ports power it with no cable."

Source: http://www.amazon.com/review/RBCJ03NLRAHIF/

Re:Google Chromecast by runjake on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @05:04PM (#6099076)
It's pretty [1] standard [2] to not include cords in product pictures.

1. https://www.apple.com/appletv/

2. https://www.apple.com/imac/

Re:Google Chromecast by yalogin on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @05:06PM (#6099089)
Yeah, but this is the size of a USB stick, with that comes the expectation/assumption that there is no power cord.
Re:Google Chromecast by kansas on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @05:09PM (#6099100)
Really funny. Everybody else does it. Even though two devices are not comparable in form factor. Why it is in minuscule fine print though? Please ...
Re:Google Chromecast by Selfcommit on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @05:40PM (#6099274)
Really not a problem.. The power cord is only required on certain HDMI ports.. and it likely won't be needed on future/modern HDMI ports.

Why is this even an issue?

Re:Google Chromecast by droopyEyelids on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @10:30PM (#6100582)
"Everyone else does it" has never been a reason, only an excuse.
Re:Google Chromecast by tomkarlo on Thursday July 25, 2013 @11:14AM (#6102838)
This isn't even the same as devices that always require AC power but don't show a cord. It's basically a method of providing backwards-compatibility with HDMI ports that don't provide power, but if you're using the state-of-the-art TVs they show the product with, there's no power cord necessary.
Re:Google Chromecast by baddox on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @02:44PM (#6098203)
It seems pretty clear from the first picture that it's a male HMDI plug on one end and a female plug (which looks like the standard Android phone USB plug) on the other end. I don't see any images of the device plugged into a TV without a power cord (correction: there is one animation in the Plug and Play section if you mouse over). The images are just of the device on its own, so it doesn't seem deceptive to me.

You comment made me curious: is it possible for things to be powered by HDMI? There is definitely a 5V pin as part of the HDMI spec, but I can't find a good source for details.

Re:Google Chromecast by jcampbell1 on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @02:54PM (#6098273)
> I don't see any images of the device plugged into a TV without a power cord.

From the "Plug and Play" section:

http://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/assets/common/images/ch...

The only place I see any mention of a power cord is in 10px #d1d1d1 font on a white background.

Re:Google Chromecast by baddox on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @03:09PM (#6098361)
Correction noted. I hadn't moused over that spot.
Re:Google Chromecast by ctdonath on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @02:52PM (#6098263)
The 5V pin delivers 50mA. Enough to be tantalizing, insufficient for current reality.
Re:Google Chromecast by pwthornton on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @02:37PM (#6098160)
Well this is disappointing.
Re:Google Chromecast by psbp on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @04:45PM (#6098973)
If your t.v. has an HDMI port it more than likely has a USB as well. Not a big deal.
Re:Google Chromecast by BHSPitMonkey on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @07:08PM (#6099766)
Actually, many (perhaps even most) TV USB ports don't provide power (or good enough quality power) for anything beyond basic thumb drives. It's also possible for ports not to offer power unless the right handshake is made by the device. Also, some TVs have a USB port which is only for diagnostic use, and can provide unsteady/harmful power output.

However, I'm guessing this device ships with a USB cable + wall wart for everyone else.

Re:Google Chromecast by scholia on Thursday July 25, 2013 @01:58PM (#6103836)
It does....
Re:Google Chromecast by dragonwriter on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @07:45PM (#6099963)
> If your t.v. has an HDMI port it more than likely has a USB as well.

This is probably true for current new TVs, but HDMI ports were common on HDTVs before USB ports were, and not everyone replaces their TV every year.

Re:Google Chromecast by Shank on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @06:49PM (#6099649)
Neither of my TVs have USB, but both have HDMI. I'd hazard a guess that the older "brand new HD" TVs that came with HDMI first will need external power, while modern ones won't need it.
Re:Google Chromecast by etler on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @08:59PM (#6100254)
If your TV is capable of powering via HDMI it doesn't require a power adapter. You can't really blame them for that if the TV is out of date.
Re:Google Chromecast by aroch on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @02:34PM (#6098140)
Just like, pretty much every, android device it uses a USB charger. Many advertisement related images don't include cords and the like for prettier pictures. Using HDMI to power things is a tricky thing, many monitors and TVs din't supply power over HDMI and among those that do (especially Sony TV iirc) they provide less-than ideal amounts of power.
Re:Google Chromecast by mikeryan on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @02:43PM (#6098195)
A lot of new HDTV's however have HDMI and a USB port (generally near each other).

It would be a bit messy but perhaps you could have it plugged into both at once and then you won't need an ungainly power cable to a socket.

Re:Google Chromecast by MBCook on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @03:23PM (#6098455)
On recent HD TVs that's true, but if you go back more than 2-3 years (or didn't buy a giant 55" set) then it's quite likely you'll have to resort to the AC adapter.
Re:Google Chromecast by Recoil42 on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @05:12PM (#6099111)
Which is exactly what they've accounted for here, and why they've given both options.
Re:Google Chromecast by agildehaus on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @06:47PM (#6099631)
The question is - do you have to resort to the AC adapter if you have one of the newer HDMI ports?
Re:Google Chromecast by BHSPitMonkey on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @07:10PM (#6099775)
The fine text on the linked page says "Power cord required" (emphasis mine).
Re:Google Chromecast by inigoesdr on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @02:35PM (#6098146)
It uses a USB cable that is indeed not shown in the marketing images, but it is mentioned in the product description.
Re:Google Chromecast by mtgx on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @02:45PM (#6098209)
I think it can be connected like this with the TV's USB port:

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/8651907/2013-07-...

Re:Google Chromecast by inigoesdr on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @04:14PM (#6098795)
Yep, or a regular USB power adapter which I think someone mentioned is included.
Re:Google Chromecast by umsm on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @03:32PM (#6098512)
Does anyone know if this is actually powered solely by HDMI:

www.roku.com/streamingstick

Re:Google Chromecast by notatoad on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @03:36PM (#6098549)
It is, but only works on a TV that supports MHL HDMI. The chromecast stick works on any HDMI port because it doesn't rely on the port for power.

it's too bad it can't use MHL power where available and fall back to external. Seems like an obvious feature.

Re:Google Chromecast by cfaulkingham on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @03:37PM (#6098554)
It is but it's MHL
Re:Google Chromecast by samstave on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @04:02PM (#6098723)
Lots of Smart TVs also have USB -- how much power does this draw? Could it not have a USB power-slurper that you could plug into the USB port of the TV fr power?
Re:Google Chromecast by tjohns on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @04:18PM (#6098806)
Yes, you can do precisely that. As posted above, the setup instructions show options for either connecting to a TV's USB port or using a USB wall charger: http://cdn2.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/8651957/2013-07-...
Re:Google Chromecast by nwh on Thursday July 25, 2013 @01:08AM (#6101020)
The Samsung TVs can supply something stupid like 300ma. Enough for a USB stick, but not a spinning disk that is host powered.
Re:Google Chromecast by IanCal on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @05:00PM (#6099060)
It does.
Re:Google Chromecast by kansas on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @03:43PM (#6098594)
sucks. Just bought 3 units. Didn't see it requires a power cord
Re:Google Chromecast by reustle on Thursday July 25, 2013 @04:50AM (#6101506)
Does it honestly change anything? It's not like your TV doesn't require a power cord...
Re:Google Chromecast by rogerchucker on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @03:25PM (#6098468)
Did you spot any cable during the presentation from the dongle to the wall or a power strip?