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Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by antr on Thursday July 18, 2013 @01:32PM (#6065126)
I'm a big fan of VLC, it's been my default video app since I can remember. Can't wait to see it again on iOS.

The "big" feature I would like to see is some kind of "super-easy" drag and drop feature where I could easily send video files to my iPad/iPhone without doing the whole Browser->IP:Port->Choose file, etc. A "video file right click -> VLC -> Send file to iPad (upload in background)" would put a smile on my face.

Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by jbk on Thursday July 18, 2013 @01:42PM (#6065193)
I wish we could do that, but it is really annoying to do, since it almost needs a special desktop app to do so. And the iDevice must be in the listening mode...

Drag'n drop in the browser is the best we have so far. Maybe a later version with Bonjour will come... Patches welcome :)

Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by alco on Thursday July 18, 2013 @03:55PM (#6066052)
Bonjour is easy to implement. But why a special desktop app? Isn't there VLC for desktop already?

I haven't used the original VLC for iOS. Do you run an HTTP server on the device for file uploading? You could go one step further and add WebDAV on top of HTTP. That would allow mounting the app as an external disk. It can also be integrated with desktop VLC for automatic discovery and file sharing.

Can't wait to start contributing!

Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by jbk on Thursday July 18, 2013 @04:41PM (#6066311)
> Bonjour is easy to implement.

Indeed, but the first thing I did was crashing, and was not the biggest priority. I hope that we can bring it later on.

> But why a special desktop app? Isn't there VLC for desktop already?

We could do that, although I'm not a fan of such coupling, but maybe it's easier than I expected.

> I haven't used the original VLC for iOS. Do you run an HTTP server on the device for file uploading?

We do for this version :)

> Can't wait to start contributing!

Seriously? Can't wait for patches :)

Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by daxelrod on Thursday July 18, 2013 @02:05PM (#6065355)
The old VLC for iOS used iTunes's transfer capabilities rather than presenting an HTTP server.

Here's a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/cRwg8Rr.jpg

Not quite as slick as the context menu you're suggesting though.

Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by jbk on Thursday July 18, 2013 @02:06PM (#6065359)
The new one has the HTTP server...

I've added it...

Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by roskilli on Thursday July 18, 2013 @01:36PM (#6065155)
The Dropbox integration may very well make it that easy, simply drop into your Dropbox folder and hey presto. Although waiting for it to sync to AWS might be painful, I wonder if the iOS and Android clients do local syncing like the desktop clients do when on the same network?
Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by icebraining on Thursday July 18, 2013 @01:42PM (#6065201)
LAN syncing doesn't avoid having to upload it first to AWS, though; it just speeds up the subsequent download to the other devices.
Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by steevdave on Thursday July 18, 2013 @01:42PM (#6065195)
Android, at least here, does not sync the files to the device at all until you attempt to look at them
Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by daed on Thursday July 18, 2013 @01:51PM (#6065252)
Assuming it's like the last version on iOS (which I was lucky enough to download before it got yanked) you can just plug in your device and throw whatever videos you want into VLC's documents folder. Transfers really quickly over USB.
Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by mehrzad on Thursday July 18, 2013 @01:42PM (#6065196)
>it's been my default video app since I can remember.

Curious as to what you think about MPlayer, MPC-HC, or mpv, which have mostly taken the crown in nerd circles as being the de facto video players.

Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by Camillo on Thursday July 18, 2013 @03:04PM (#6065721)
I don't want to go off-topic, but since VLC developers are reading this thread, here's where MPlayer (I use MPlayerX) is still better than VLC:

- MPlayer starts much faster.

- MPlayer loads videos much faster.

- MPlayer has very convenient shortcuts for skipping forward or backward by 10 seconds (just press the right or left arrow), which are a godsend when you're watching something in a foreign language and you need to hear a sentence again. VLC's shortcuts (command-option-arrow) are far less convenient, harder to remember, and VLC reacts to them much more slowly, which makes it incredibly inconvenient.

There has been some improvement over the last few years: seeking hardly used to work at all in VLC, while now it works, albeit slowly. However, it's not enough to beat MPlayer.

There may be other reasons to prefer MPlayer, but they become more subjective. The ones I mentioned above are areas where VLC is objectively inferior. It would be great if it could be further improved.

Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by hrktb on Thursday July 18, 2013 @05:33PM (#6066682)
I've been using both for weird format files and codecs (anything more or less standard is streamed to the tv directly) and felt that VLC tends to try as much as possible to read everything, while MPlayerX is more tolerant towards garbage in the stream and won't bother recovering mildly invalid data.

Part of the lag in VLC when starting a stream might come from a more heavy handed init process.

This can be a curse or a blessing, I'm happy both approaches are available.

Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by FooBarWidget on Thursday July 18, 2013 @05:08PM (#6066505)
I used to be an avid mplayer user too, starting since circa 2003 on Linux. However nowadays, on my Mac, I found more and more video files that mplayer crashes on. That made me switch to VLC. I still miss mplayer's super-fast seeking and loading times though. And once in a while VLC freezes during startup for no good reason.
Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by autodidakto on Friday July 19, 2013 @02:42PM (#6072061)
Shortcuts are the reason I haven't switched off VLC:

a to change aspect ratio on poorly encoding. c to change crop. e to advance one frame. s to change subtitle stream, l for audio stream.

Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by Enquiry on Thursday July 18, 2013 @01:53PM (#6065277)
The only "nerd circle" I know that is fixated on MPC are otakus, for no meaningful reasons except to make themselves feel superior. (Especially subbing groups)

I use FooBar2K for audio and VLC for video.

Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by ANTSANTS on Thursday July 18, 2013 @03:42PM (#6065976)
Kinda surprised that the grandparent (asked an honest question) is getting downvoted while this post (made a baseless claim) isn't.

>The only "nerd circle" I know that is fixated on MPC are otakus, for no meaningful reasons except to make themselves feel superior.

VLC is built largely around the cross-platform ffmpeg libraries and does not seem to have the ability to use native Windows DirectShow filters, in the interest of being portable and removing a source of configuration errors. Like it or not, a number of high quality open-source "audio/videophile" (for lack of a better term) media player plugins exist solely as Windows DirectShow filters. The most important that springs to mind is MadVR, a video renderer with support for high-quality GPU-accelerated upscaling filters, and the ability to set separate upscaling filters for the chroma and luma channels. That's more than enough for me, but there's also ReClock (similar to the RetroArch emulator, perfectly syncs the video to the display and slightly shifts the pitch of the audio to compensate), various vendor-specific hardware-accelerated video decoders, xy-VSFilter, the LAV filter suite (which support, amongst other things, bitstreaming, the ability to pass compressed audio streams through to a digital receiver), and others I'm probably forgetting.

These plugins can be used in any media playing software for Windows that supports DirectShow filters, such as the official Windows Media Player. MPC just happens to be a really lightweight, stable, and customizable DirectShow-based media player.

VLC is good software and probably the best solution for people who just want to watch some videos without configuring anything. I haven't looked at a stock MPC install in a while, but it's possible that stock VLC works better than that. However, for those that actually want to put some effort into tweaking their AV-setup, and want to make use of Windows-specific software, MPC is a great media player, one of the few programs (including Foobar) that I sorely miss on Linux. The people that look down on VLC users are silly, but it's not like the only reason to use MPC is elitism.

Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by cube13 on Thursday July 18, 2013 @04:35PM (#6066280)
There was a time(early 2000's) when lots of fansub groups were experimenting with brand new codecs and package techniques(like mkv).

MPC's easily extensible plugin system was a great thing then, because fansub groups could create their own package and easily distribute it with the codecs they were using.

VLC wasn't nearly as optimized as today, so it tended to run like crap on a lot of systems. I remember MPC loading up almost instantly on my college machine, while VLC would take a while to load and run.

Today, this is less of an issue. Pretty much everyone's settled a few standard codecs, and VLC's performance is quite good.

Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by ANTSANTS on Thursday July 18, 2013 @04:52PM (#6066387)
Codec support isn't that much of a problem nowadays, true. The plugin system is still useful for the reasons I mentioned: Adjustments and custom plugins that for the most part only dedicated AV-nerds care about.

However, consider that an H264 successor will arrive at some point, the anime scene will probably adopt it well in advance of everyone else (like it did with Hi10p), and flexible codec support doesn't seem so pointless after all.

Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by mileswu on Thursday July 18, 2013 @03:30PM (#6065897)
There are many rendering filters and pipelines available for DirectShow (and therefore MPC-HC) that VLC does not have. For example MadVR[1] improves upscaling and display rendering quality dramatically and xy-VSFilter can render subtitles many times faster than libass which is used in VLC.

These are just two examples that I came up with off the top of my head, but there are countless more. The advantage of VLC is that it's simple and just works out of the box for 95% of stuff, but MPC/Directshow gives you far more flexibility as you can construct a very custom filter chain (eg. using different decoders and renderers).

[1] http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146228 [2] https://code.google.com/p/xy-vsfilter/

Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by smtddr on Thursday July 18, 2013 @02:21PM (#6065440)
So, if you're going to say that about otakus then can you explain why your choices are superior?
Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by CrazedGeek on Thursday July 18, 2013 @03:47PM (#6066004)
I'll let someone else handle VLC, but fb2k is good because:

* Extremely fast startup and snappy interface

* Supports a wide variety of formats

* Uses existing ID3 tags & Vorbis comments and doesn't try creating its own

* Mature plugin interface

* Reasonably simple

Downsides are that you have to be willing to spend a little extra time organizing your music and it's weak with playlists and device synchronization.

Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by JohnTHaller on Thursday July 18, 2013 @01:50PM (#6065245)
MPlayer works in the Linux world, but the app itself has no stable releases outside of that so it doesn't have traction beyond Linux. Unless you count things like SMPlayer (Windows-specific front-end and MPlayer backend) and the like. MPC-HC is pretty popular in the Windows world. But neither of them come close to approaching VLC's userbase. We make SMPlayer, MPC-HC and VLC all available in portable form at PortableApps.com alongside each other and VLC's downloads blow the other two away.
Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by Osmium on Thursday July 18, 2013 @01:58PM (#6065314)
There are some MPlayer-powered releases for OS X too, e.g. http://mplayerx.org

There are others too, though I'm not sure what the differences are.

Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by JohnTHaller on Thursday July 18, 2013 @10:16PM (#6067926)
There are a bunch of them on Windows, too. It's hard to keep track of them all.
Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by simcop2387 on Thursday July 18, 2013 @03:06PM (#6065733)
smplayer isn't windows only. It does work on linux fairly well too. That being said, I have grown to like VLC more lately.
Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by JohnTHaller on Thursday July 18, 2013 @10:16PM (#6067924)
Quite right, my mistake. The point still stands, though, as Windows (the dominant OS by a huge margin) has no stable releases of the base MPlayer app, so there's no one version people can grab. Whereas VLC runs quite well on Windows, Mac and Linux.
Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by simcop2387 on Saturday July 20, 2013 @10:14PM (#6077507)
Yep, that's the same reason I recommend VLC. It's definitely improved since the days of 2005 or so when I used it to stream dvds over a lan to a machine that didn't have a DVD drive. I wonder if anyone has screenshots of it over the years...
Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by medell on Thursday July 18, 2013 @03:42PM (#6065974)
Movist for Mac, MPC-HC for Windows.

VLC has gotten heavy and some defaults have me thinking the user is not in mind. Holding CTRL / ALT with arrow keys to skip? This is awkward with one hand. The arrows default to "Navigate" for DVD menus. DVD's! Rebuilding font cache? Yes, yes these are all customizable...

Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by Florin_Andrei on Thursday July 18, 2013 @02:04PM (#6065353)
I kept the old version on my iPhone ever since it got pulled from the store. Made sure to not delete it. :)

> native Dropbox integration

> background audio playback

This is awesome.

Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by jamesaguilar on Thursday July 18, 2013 @03:46PM (#6066002)
Plex is almost this, if you're looking for something that has this feature now.
Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by ronnier on Thursday July 18, 2013 @04:34PM (#6066269)
Plex is great. I'm on vacation with access to my full movie collection. Streams perfectly.
Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by jamesaguilar on Thursday July 18, 2013 @04:41PM (#6066310)
Yep. I paid for the membership, so Plex will also re-encode my stuff and sync it to the iPhone (or any other device). This prevents having to mess around with Handbrake for hours trying to get the iPhone to eat the video.
Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by 1qaz2wsx3edc on Thursday July 18, 2013 @04:53PM (#6066399)
I love VLC. A mobile version sounds awesome, if streaming from a host is easy. That's really all I want to do.

And to that effect I use Airplayit for streaming+copying from pc/mac to ios. It's fairly simple and reliable.

Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by ferdo on Thursday July 18, 2013 @02:32PM (#6065522)
This isn't a VLC solution per se but it did solve my issue of getting files onto an iPad as I don't use spyTunes:

http://www.digidna.net/diskaid

Re:VLC for iOS returns on July 19, rewritten and fully open-... by darkstalker on Thursday July 18, 2013 @06:33PM (#6067010)
If you jailbreak you can use SFTP