underestimating Google? I place Google pretty high up on the scale of having smart people. Really high. Like #2. Actually, the only people that can beat extremely bright engineers at this game are mathematicians. That's what Wolfram does (remember, Mathematica?).

The complexity that mathematicians can compute is at least an order higher than engineers. Think of Linus vs. grandma struggling with 3 lines of HTML. The same gap is between the brightest of engineers and a good mathematician.

So that's why I place Wolfram #1 and Google #2, for that particular space (computation). But if you are a bright engineer and never got exposed to good mathematicians, you may just not even be aware that there is all this realm of knowledge above your head.