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Re:The Reddit sleuths who brought down a meme empire by brokentone on Monday July 01, 2013 @02:15PM (#5972545)
Agreed, it sounded like the Atlantic guy banned eons ago was actually a good community member. At some point the Reddit restriction of "submit any content but your own" feels very artificial.
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Re:The Reddit sleuths who brought down a meme empire by davidw on Monday July 01, 2013 @04:13PM (#5973277)
I've always found that attitude of not promoting your own stuff annoying. If you took the time to write it and think about it, you should be proud of it! If you're just spamming, people will see it and vote accordingly.
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Re:The Reddit sleuths who brought down a meme empire by tptacek on Monday July 01, 2013 @05:04PM (#5973538)
Submitting your own stuff is fine. It's when you mechanically submit everything that appears on your site that we start having problems.
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Re:The Reddit sleuths who brought down a meme empire by davidw on Monday July 01, 2013 @05:05PM (#5973546)
Sure, and I think the difference is pretty clear to most reasonable people. What I take issue with is the idea that self-promotion is "bad".
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Re:The Reddit sleuths who brought down a meme empire by diminoten on Tuesday July 02, 2013 @12:12AM (#5975784)
curious why, though. If it's good, it'll be pushed upwards. If it's not it won't be.

Why does it matter who does the submitting?

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Re:The Reddit sleuths who brought down a meme empire by benologist on Tuesday July 02, 2013 @12:47AM (#5975889)
It matters heaps - links submitted by community members with no affiliation to the source have been judged worthy for submission based purely on the content's merit.

Dailydot, extremetech, pcmag, geek, macobserver, betabeat, itworld, bostinno etc have collectively operated dozens of acounts to spam their own stuff, none of which met an actual community member's standards for submitting a story.

Individuals submitting their own blog posts and especially with success are usually so low volume they're not even noticeable unless they overdo it and inevitably get called out for it.

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Re:The Reddit sleuths who brought down a meme empire by yuhong on Tuesday July 02, 2013 @02:36AM (#5976195)
>Dailydot, extremetech, pcmag, geek, macobserver, betabeat, itworld, bostinno etc have

I prefer to say "could" instead of "have" unless you have definite evidence.

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Re:The Reddit sleuths who brought down a meme empire by benologist on Tuesday July 02, 2013 @03:08AM (#5976268)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5567427

Plus dailydot are just getting started with the OP + 'sexyalterego'.

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Re:The Reddit sleuths who brought down a meme empire by diminoten on Tuesday July 02, 2013 @01:01AM (#5975929)
What do you mean "judged worthy of submission"?
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Re:The Reddit sleuths who brought down a meme empire by benologist on Tuesday July 02, 2013 @01:03AM (#5975936)
A submission from a real user implies one of us thought the rest of us might like this. They judged it worth submitting.
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Re:The Reddit sleuths who brought down a meme empire by diminoten on Tuesday July 02, 2013 @11:46AM (#5978588)
So a one person difference?
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Re:The Reddit sleuths who brought down a meme empire by benologist on Tuesday July 02, 2013 @03:24PM (#5980162)
Think about everything you see online and don't submit. It matters.
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Re:The Reddit sleuths who brought down a meme empire by speeder on Monday July 01, 2013 @07:01PM (#5974271)
Except HN blocks that I guess...

At least I try to always make good submissions, and usually HN only let me submit twice every month...

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Re:The Reddit sleuths who brought down a meme empire by dfc on Monday July 01, 2013 @11:44PM (#5975692)
I'm curious about the submission throttling that you have experienced. You have 4 submissions from the last month (last 30 days) and 9 submissions for the two previous months. What is being throttled?
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Re:The Reddit sleuths who brought down a meme empire by speeder on Tuesday July 02, 2013 @12:29AM (#5975826)
I don't know, but I rarely can submit new stuff...

When I joined HN I submitted a lot, but suddenly I could not submit for two weeks, then sometimes I can submit twice or three times in a week, and then have to wait two weeks again...

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Re:The Reddit sleuths who brought down a meme empire by ggchappell on Monday July 01, 2013 @03:27PM (#5972997)
I'd go further and say it's misguided. I'd like to think that a single account's submissions can be thought of as a "channel", as on YouTube.
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Re:The Reddit sleuths who brought down a meme empire by nonotthatone on Monday July 01, 2013 @02:28PM (#5972622)
> submit any content but your own

Plenty of people submit their own content. In fact, it's encouraged. You have reddit confused with digg, somehow.

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Re:The Reddit sleuths who brought down a meme empire by minimaxir on Monday July 01, 2013 @02:37PM (#5972677)
It's definitely not encouraged on Reddit, one of the old notes of Redditquite is "if more than 10% of what you submit is your personal content, then you're probably a spammer."

Once, someone submitted one of my blog posts about a rather interesting bug in a AAA game to /r/programming. Over 1,000 net score. Out of curiosity, I submitted the same post myself to /r/games. -7 score.

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Re:The Reddit sleuths who brought down a meme empire by skeletonjelly on Monday July 01, 2013 @07:26PM (#5974428)
Your last example could be bad timing and/or the r/games audience not caring about programming etc
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Re:The Reddit sleuths who brought down a meme empire by minimaxir on Tuesday July 02, 2013 @04:08AM (#5976425)
True, although once a credible news source made a post with similar, it hit the front page of /r/games quickly.
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Re:The Reddit sleuths who brought down a meme empire by zevyoura on Monday July 01, 2013 @02:38PM (#5972680)
Actually, Reddit's FAQ[1] says:

> If over 10% of your submissions are your own site/content, you're almost certainly a spammer.

[1] http://www.reddit.com/wiki/faq#wiki_what_constitutes_spam.3F

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Re:The Reddit sleuths who brought down a meme empire by Uperte on Monday July 01, 2013 @02:36PM (#5972661)
"Feel free to post links to your own content (within reason). But if that's all you ever post, and it always seems to get voted down, take a good hard look in the mirror — you just might be a spammer. A widely used rule of thumb is the 9:1 ratio, i.e. only 1 out of every 10 of your submissions should be your own content."

From reddiquette.

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Re:The Reddit sleuths who brought down a meme empire by alayne on Monday July 01, 2013 @02:54PM (#5972785)
Your own content != be a corporate shill / spammer.
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Re:The Reddit sleuths who brought down a meme empire by Pxtl on Monday July 01, 2013 @11:21PM (#5975617)
Exactly. A part of me was kind of sad that Digg's final phase of being a direct aggregator of news without "submission" but instead sucking the news straight from RSS feeds and pumping it into the hivemind upvote/downvote system... that this system tanked so badly and was so poorly done. Requiring that the "submitter" be some legitimate member of the community seems forced, as long as it's not high-frequency spam.
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