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Re:Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One by amalcon on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @07:17PM (#5909121)
The aftermarket part to disable the Kinect without breaking warranty is not very expensive:

http://www.amazon.com/Post--3-Inches-Canary-Yellow-12-Pads/d...

Though there are a number of reasons I don't like the Xbox One, the Kinect isn't one of them.

Re:Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One by mikelat on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @08:22PM (#5909388)
You could very well do that. You could also crack open the kinect as soon as you buy it and change it so you can disable it by a switch or something like that. Although permanent disconnection apparently isn't a good idea as saying "xbox on" will I hear be the only way you turn the device on.

Really though I think it'd be easier for them to just give customers the option not to plug it in, but my guess is that they're trying to make sure everyone uses the kinect that they ship with the console (its not necessarily being used for nefarious purposes), but with that being said I still don't trust Microsoft.

Re:Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One by jevinskie on Thursday June 20, 2013 @12:53AM (#5910243)
> "xbox on" will I hear be the only way you turn the device on.

Really? What about mute people? Microsoft can't be that accessibility-impaired!

Re:Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One by mikelat on Thursday June 20, 2013 @12:37PM (#5913044)
I'm just telling you what I've read. I don't agree with it, but it's reasonable to assume they ship a kinect with every xbox one, they want people to use it and they probably aren't thinking of mute people.
Re:Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One by superkamiguru on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @07:27PM (#5909167)
There is still the mic part. Should we use bubblewrap instead?
Re:Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One by Dylan16807 on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @08:57PM (#5909529)
You can disable the camera by turning it around. The microphone is the bigger issue.
Re:Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One by comex on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @09:05PM (#5909557)
You mean like the microphone found in almost every laptop, tablet, or phone?

I guess the difference with this microphone is that it's listening to you all the time by default, and that creeps some people out. But it's not sending your words over the network, and is not more likely to start doing so than any of the aforementioned devices (actually, much less, because of increased security); it's just pattern matching for the word "Xbox". Kind of like the initial worries over Gmail "reading your email" to target ads: I predict that this too will peter out once people start actually using the product, albeit perhaps never die completely.

(For the record, the fact that Gmail messages can also be read by law enforcement under some circumstances is both a serious issue and irrelevant to the analogy.)

Re:Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One by Dylan16807 on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @09:45PM (#5909677)
I can install my own OS on laptop, tablet, or phone. Or remove the microphone without anything breaking.
Re:Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One by comex on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @09:53PM (#5909699)
It's extremely difficult to remove the microphone from any of those things.
Re:Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One by Dylan16807 on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @10:40PM (#5909835)
Oh, to be clear I mostly meant removing the mic on a laptop. And it's pretty easy to open a laptop, just takes some screwdrivers. Or you can take a pin and stab the microphone until it no longer functions. No extreme difficulty here.
Re:Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One by LaurelCrowned on Thursday June 20, 2013 @12:16AM (#5910106)
It's possible to have a software based microphone coded into whatever operating system. Speakers can also be used as a microphone. There is software out there that can record sound without any actual microphone.
Re:Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One by bashinator on Thursday June 20, 2013 @12:46AM (#5910210)
I would really like more details about this software.
Re:Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One by hobs on Thursday June 20, 2013 @01:09AM (#5910294)
http://beyerdynamicheadphones.danielcadams.com/how-to-use-ea...

Not any speaker, but you can use some headphones as microphones very easily.

Re:Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One by bashinator on Thursday June 20, 2013 @05:14PM (#5915025)
Oh, OK - I knew about that trick. I thought you were referring to the internal speakers on a laptop being usable as a covert audio recorder.
Re:Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One by Dylan16807 on Thursday June 20, 2013 @01:32AM (#5910364)
How many actually have sound cards sophisticated enough to feed the speakers into the ADC?
Re:Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One by sliverstorm on Thursday June 20, 2013 @03:38AM (#5910740)
Shit, I thought OnStar has already been doing the "listening to you 24/7" thing for years now?