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Re:Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One by baddox on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @06:59PM (#5909009)
Well everything is about trust, right? The PS4 could have a completely hidden camera that always on, but most people trust that Sony wouldn't do that, or that if they did, someone would quickly find it.
Re:Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One by brigade on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @07:11PM (#5909089)
It's almost like iFixit doesn't exist.
Re:Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One by baddox on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @07:15PM (#5909113)
It's still trust though. We trust that iFixit or some other third party would discover and publicize the secret camera. A few of us might even do it ourselves, but most of us would just trust that someone else would.
Re:Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One by mikeash on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @07:30PM (#5909183)
Those are all extremely different levels of trust. It's useless to treat them as equivalent.
Re:Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One by baddox on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @08:12PM (#5909339)
I think the "software vs. hardware" disabling of the Kinect is very similar.
Re:Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One by Dylan16807 on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @08:53PM (#5909510)
Software vs. hardware means you trust Microsoft to never in the future decide to spy and to never make a coding mistake that could turn the equipment on when it's not supposed to be.

When it comes to teardowns you trust that multiple independent parties aren't all actively lying to you in concert.

I don't see how these are at all similar.

Re:Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One by mikeash on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @09:24PM (#5909607)
When somebody figures out how to leverage a buffer overflow exploit in order to create a camera or microphone where none exists, then the might be similar.
Re:Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One by mikelat on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @08:19PM (#5909364)
You are correct, but the amount of trust you have in products you buy and use is your personal choice. If you think that's what they're doing then you probably shouldn't buy sony products.