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Re:iOS 7 by rabino on Monday June 10, 2013 @03:27PM (#5856640)
Why don't you wait until you have a freakin' phone in your hand and try it?
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Re:iOS 7 by jlarocco on Monday June 10, 2013 @03:35PM (#5856749)
Because once the upgrade is installed there's no going back?
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Re:iOS 7 by sneak on Monday June 10, 2013 @07:21PM (#5858254)
Backup your device-specific SHSH signatures for 6.x now!

(Or has Apple closed this hole yet with timestamping?)

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Re:iOS 7 by madeofpalk on Monday June 10, 2013 @11:54PM (#5859565)
Of course you can downgrade. You just can't downgrade after iOS 7 goes gold.
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Re:iOS 7 by gurkendoktor on Tuesday June 11, 2013 @09:08AM (#5861444)
The copy right next to the download link explicitly says you can't. Blogs report otherwise, but that is a very fragile "of course".
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Re:iOS 7 by Alphasite_ on Tuesday June 11, 2013 @09:52AM (#5861713)
Its always been possible, in the past (and now - i believe) you just need to enter dfu mode first, then restore it.
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Re:iOS 7 by bennyg on Monday June 10, 2013 @04:55PM (#5856814)
Then use one of your friends that has the developer account, or wait till it's on every phone in the Apple Store. Either way, the point is to reserve judgment until you use it. Just like everything else.
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Re:iOS 7 by tripzilch on Monday June 10, 2013 @05:39PM (#5857249)
Then why do they show it.

"That is iOS7."

"It appears to be different from iOS6."

"That's an iPhone!"

"I see that Apple made this."

"Well this discussion is getting a little bit too heated for me, I think I will go and reserve my judgement somewhere else for a minute."

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Re:iOS 7 by mcintyre1994 on Monday June 10, 2013 @05:14PM (#5856897)
There is Apple marketing material they've made available. It's perfectly valid to make judgements from that in my opinion.
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Re:iOS 7 by rgbrgb on Monday June 10, 2013 @05:39PM (#5857250)
It's perfectly invalid to make judgements on usability without using it though.
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Re:iOS 7 by WayneDB on Monday June 10, 2013 @07:13PM (#5858200)
You can absolutely pass valid judgement on quality of usability on sight alone.

If I showed you a picture of a 4 foot wide ship wheel and said I was going to install it in my Mazda Miata - you'd know instantly that it would be unusable, right? How about a screen-shot of a text editor that only shows you one giant character at a time?

Even as we move away from the ridiculous end of the spectrum of examples - you can know how usable something is based on past experience with similar environments.

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Re:iOS 7 by evadne on Tuesday June 11, 2013 @04:27AM (#5860469)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noe3kR8KqJc

._.

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Re:iOS 7 by chris_wot on Tuesday June 11, 2013 @07:02AM (#5860905)
I'd launch that on Kickstarter.
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Re:iOS 7 by rabino on Monday June 10, 2013 @06:31PM (#5857927)
Those are screenshots of a beta! How categorically can you judge something until you have the final release in front of you?
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Re:iOS 7 by furyofantares on Monday June 10, 2013 @06:54PM (#5858072)
One of the big reasons to put something through a beta is so people will judge it before its final release
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Re:iOS 7 by pbreit on Monday June 10, 2013 @05:07PM (#5856869)
Well, watching the "in action" videos on an iPhone is pretty darn close.

You do realize you are on a web site designed for commentary on tech matters?

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Re:iOS 7 by rabino on Monday June 10, 2013 @06:33PM (#5857938)
Tech commentary used to be more more than baseless hipster-y. Oh the good ol' days.
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Re:iOS 7 by nodata on Monday June 10, 2013 @03:36PM (#5856756)
Because then there would be no comments here :)
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