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Re:Mark Zuckerberg addresses PRISM by Dove on Friday June 07, 2013 @07:27PM (#5842769)
I'm not impressed. Most press releases have only a handful of paragraphs. I'd believe it was common to go over the topics of "What We're Talking About, What We Deny, What We Affirm, and How It Could Be Better."

It may look impressive that they all say they don't allow "direct access to servers", but it's hardly surprising, since the original Guardian headline[1] was "Top-secret Prism program claims direct access to servers of firms including Google, Apple and Facebook". If they didn't say that exactly, you'd be suspicious.

It may look impressive that they all say they "haven't heard of PRISM," but this is really quite a natural thing to say if it's true, and someone accuses you of being involved in the program.

Moreover, aside from the "direct access" thing, the phrases they all use are actually different. "We have not heard of PRISM" in one case, "We have never heard of PRISM" in another, "We had not heard of a program called PRISM until yesterday," in a third, and so forth. You don't have any case for funny business based on similar wording (because it isn't), and the case for contamination based on similar content would be a whole lot more impressive if that content weren't something common and expected.

On the whole, I think the similarities have plausible mundane explanations. Admittedly, I am no student of accidental plagiarism. I don't have an academic opinion on how similar or dissimilar we should expect the statements to be when ten people try to say the same thing in response to the same accusation. But that is just my point: if you want to persuade me of something so preposterous as that all of these people are following a script, you're going to have to do more than wave your hands and say, "Look, there are similarities."

Please. That's the stuff of superstition. If you want to convince me the probability of this occurring at random is low, you're going to have to do some math.

[1] http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-n...

Re:Mark Zuckerberg addresses PRISM by arange on Friday June 07, 2013 @08:23PM (#5843001)
or all these companies are intentionally making similar press releases in hopes people will catch on that theyre being coerced into denying involvement. this way they're (assuming they have one) fulfilling their denial obligation with the NSA, yet still are protesting what they dont actually want to be doing
Re:Mark Zuckerberg addresses PRISM by incongruity on Friday June 07, 2013 @09:38PM (#5843271)
The real issue, IMHO, isn't whether or not the companies are participating in PRISM or any similar program – yes, it'd be problematic if they are – but yes or no, the fact that we can so easily be suspicious of our government is much, much more telling about the state of democracy and society in the United States of America. We've seen enough to be unable to trust, regardless of ground truth in this case.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg addresses PRISM by anon808 on Friday June 07, 2013 @10:27PM (#5843421)
My guess is they all got the same template of what they're allowed to say. With something this sensitive the language is very important, especially for public company communications.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg addresses PRISM by joonix on Friday June 07, 2013 @10:05PM (#5843351)
So imagine Larry Page or Mark Zuckerberg comes out and admits it. Do you think they end up in federal prison?
Re:Mark Zuckerberg addresses PRISM by jonny_eh on Friday June 07, 2013 @10:18PM (#5843394)
Yes. There's no point in being a billionaire high-tech visionary if you're stuck behind bars on treason charges.

To us he'd be a hero, to the rest of America he's just helped out terrorists by coming clean.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg addresses PRISM by smsm42 on Saturday June 08, 2013 @05:02AM (#5844381)
If you want to see how it is really done, look at Russia - people that have money get charged with money things. You have tax audits, labor laws audits, financial compliance audits, whatever. With 2000-page laws and over 50 new federal crimes added to the statutes every year, I'm sure if you need it you can find it. I'm not saying Obama is there yet - I really hope not - but the technology is there. Nixon was impeached in part for using it, and Obama could use it too and there's some evidence it is being used here and there, even though no evidence yet it is used systematically by the highest branches of government. But it is there, and it works.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg addresses PRISM by joonix on Friday June 07, 2013 @10:46PM (#5843476)
I don't think it would happen. It would be a disaster and a scandal for any administration to pursue such charges against someone so high profile.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg addresses PRISM by dxhdr on Saturday June 08, 2013 @12:47AM (#5843848)
Whose to say they would pursue those charges? Why do they have to even disclose why they nabbed them? Under the PATRIOT act they can make anyone disappear without justification. Obviously if they're committing treason they could figure out any number of ways to make it happen.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg addresses PRISM by jfoster on Saturday June 08, 2013 @04:31AM (#5844335)
Julian Assange is pretty high profile, considered a journalist by many, has run an organisation that exposed many legitimate scandals, etc. Celebrities also go to prison quite often.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg addresses PRISM by chm on Friday June 07, 2013 @11:54PM (#5843697)
The law _should_ apply to everyone.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg addresses PRISM by GoodIntentions on Saturday June 08, 2013 @12:53AM (#5843856)
dude, If someone at that level gets jailed, it wouldn't be treason. It'd be insider trading, or perhaps something less palatable.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg addresses PRISM by philwelch on Saturday June 08, 2013 @02:10PM (#5845682)
Why make it above the table like that? The NSA has all the data they need to blackmail and intimidate these people at the very least.

I wonder what Sergey thinks of all this.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg addresses PRISM by taktix on Saturday June 08, 2013 @05:45AM (#5844456)
About whistleblowers, The Guardian[1] warned:

...the tactic of the US government has been to attack and demonize whistleblowers as a means of distracting attention from their own exposed wrongdoing and destroying the credibility of the messenger so that everyone tunes out the message.

According to the same article:

...Obama prosecutes whistlelblowers at double the number of all previous presidents COMBINED

The US government could easily and expertly discredit any whistleblower CEO with trumped-up tax evasion charges.

[1] http://m.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jun/07/whistleblo...

Re:Mark Zuckerberg addresses PRISM by taktix on Friday June 07, 2013 @08:47PM (#5843083)
Yes. The uniformity of their responses is too similar to ignore or dismiss. It's chilling to read. It's a big fat hint to anyone not already drunk on the kool-aid that the NSA is coercing them to lie.

They couldn't say it louder if they used a bullhorn.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg addresses PRISM by cpdean on Friday June 07, 2013 @10:46PM (#5843474)
why the day-old account?
Re:Mark Zuckerberg addresses PRISM by sliverstorm on Friday June 07, 2013 @11:24PM (#5843606)
Most press releases have only a handful of paragraphs

Are you surprised? High profile figures are going to want their statements to say exactly what they mean to say, and no more, no less. This means vetting, and keeping it concise helps when your timeframe is "same day".