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Re:Fairphone: Android phone that puts social values first by 4ad on Monday June 03, 2013 @01:48PM (#5814658)
I don't want high specs. I just want something that's usable. In my experience, Android running on similar phones is not usable. Not usable at all. Not by a large factor.

The fact that I'd pay 6-700 EUR for a phone that has the performance of a 370 EUR Phone (Nexus 4), way less than the performance of other 6-700 EUR phones on the market, means that I do care about other aspects of the phone more than about performance. I just want something usable, not a brick.

Re:Fairphone: Android phone that puts social values first by Oxxide on Monday June 03, 2013 @06:05PM (#5816364)
I couldn't be happier with my much, much lower spec phone.

maybe your standards of "usability" are skewed.

Re:Fairphone: Android phone that puts social values first by Dylan16807 on Monday June 03, 2013 @02:56PM (#5815079)
The Nexus 4 is 370 EUR? The large size is 370 USD including sales tax...
Re:Fairphone: Android phone that puts social values first by 4ad on Monday June 03, 2013 @03:32PM (#5815350)
370EUR in Europe.
Re:Fairphone: Android phone that puts social values first by Dylan16807 on Monday June 03, 2013 @03:50PM (#5815469)
Well yes that's clear, I'm just wondering why there's such a gouge in the price.
Re:Fairphone: Android phone that puts social values first by icelancer on Monday June 03, 2013 @05:31PM (#5816159)
Tariffs and trader regulations, and the difference isn't THAT huge. Look at price differences for things like monitors and other PC parts.
Re:Fairphone: Android phone that puts social values first by TylerE on Monday June 03, 2013 @04:36PM (#5815809)
Remember sales tax in Europe is typically 18-25%, and included in all advertised prices.
Re:Fairphone: Android phone that puts social values first by Dylan16807 on Monday June 03, 2013 @06:31PM (#5816506)
20% tax gets you up to 320 Euros, and then you still have 50€ mystery fun charge.
Re:Fairphone: Android phone that puts social values first by TylerE on Monday June 03, 2013 @06:48PM (#5816591)
Check your math. 5/6th of 370 = 308. According to a current exchange rate, 308 euros = $402. So, a whole $32 extra dollars. That seems appropriate given the heavier regulatory conditions on the EU. (Mandatory warranties, etc)
Re:Fairphone: Android phone that puts social values first by Dylan16807 on Monday June 03, 2013 @07:00PM (#5816647)
If you're removing the tax then the price you want to compare to in US dollars is $350. But on top of that, I think it's unfair to act like the tax on the 'extra' part of the price is unavoidable. I only calculated tax on the US price.

Still, either way you calculate it, the extra price is somewhere between 50 dollars and 50 euros. And since it has a perfectly good warranty in the US, I doubt that's the difference. At face value it really looks like one of those ripoffs that scribble out the $ in the price and put a euro or a pound on top of it.

Re:Fairphone: Android phone that puts social values first by TylerE on Monday June 03, 2013 @07:05PM (#5816668)
EU mandates a full 2 year warranty. Nexus 4 warranty in the US is 1 year limited.