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Poll: Full-time software engineers in Toronto, what's your annual salary?

Inspired by the poll of London, SF & the Bay Area, this poll is targeting current full-time software engineers and software developers in Toronto, ON, Canada. Base salary only, pre-tax. No options, shares, bonuses, adjustments for inflation, or benefits.

(Don't forget to up-vote the poll to get more data.)

( 16 comments | 71 points | on HN )

Poll

Less than 50k 7 votes
50k - 60k 8 votes
60k - 70k 12 votes
70k - 80k 9 votes
80k - 90k 13 votes
90k - 100k 6 votes
100k - 200k 10 votes
200k+ 20 votes
Re:Poll: Full-time software engineers in Toronto, what's you... by andrewljohnson on Saturday June 01, 2013 @12:23PM (#5804592)
How many different cities on the front page at once before this becomes absurd?

It's been pointed out that this self-reported data is mostly worthless, and is likely just to make you feel bad.

I for one have definitely submitted false data to these sorts of polls.

Re:Poll: Full-time software engineers in Toronto, what's you... by bdg on Saturday June 01, 2013 @12:53PM (#5804754)
Even though this is a small sample of data, the results are already wildly different from what various career sites are posting.

I'm a software developer in Toronto and have various companies invite me to come work from them frequently. Most of those offers aren't in the 6+ figures range.

Websites like glassdoor provide some insights. I don't know if it's accurate but I'm going on a hunch that it's more accurate than this thread.

http://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/toronto-software-engineer-...

Re:Poll: Full-time software engineers in Toronto, what's you... by kristopolous on Saturday June 01, 2013 @12:28PM (#5804618)
Why would you submit false data?
Re:Poll: Full-time software engineers in Toronto, what's you... by khuey on Saturday June 01, 2013 @12:33PM (#5804648)
Re:Poll: Full-time software engineers in Toronto, what's you... by tuananh on Saturday June 01, 2013 @12:44PM (#5804713)
These kind of posts are like 'karma whore'.
Re:Poll: Full-time software engineers in Toronto, what's you... by mikeroher on Saturday June 01, 2013 @12:33PM (#5804645)
This poll isn't set up properly. For the sake of the example, if someone makes 60k, which one should they choose? The 50-60k option or the 60-70k option. To fix this, the poll should be organized like so:

Less than 50k

50k - 59k

60k - 69k

70k - 79k

80k - 89k

90k - 99k

100k - 199k

200k+

Re:Poll: Full-time software engineers in Toronto, what's you... by benjiweber on Saturday June 01, 2013 @12:42PM (#5804703)
What if they make 59,500?

You could use interval notation to disambiguate e.g. [50k-60k)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interval_%28mathematics%29#Not...

Re:Poll: Full-time software engineers in Toronto, what's you... by mikeroher on Saturday June 01, 2013 @12:51PM (#5804745)
You're right...I completely forgot about that. However, the "explicit" way it's written above is easier to understand in my opinion.
Re:Poll: Full-time software engineers in Toronto, what's you... by a_l_a_n on Saturday June 01, 2013 @12:57PM (#5804778)
While you technically have a point, I would have thought the target audience (developers) would "naturally" interpret this as a closed, open interval as remarked by another commenter.

I'd argue that your suggestion is not right (again as pointed out by others) and not natural as you claim.

Re:Poll: Full-time software engineers in Toronto, what's you... by zaguios on Saturday June 01, 2013 @12:38PM (#5804677)
If we're getting into semantics this also wouldn't be accurate since someone can earn $59,500. I think most people that earn x0,000 will pick the larger category that they fall into meaning the results should be fairly accurate.
Re:Poll: Full-time software engineers in Toronto, what's you... by manojlds on Saturday June 01, 2013 @12:32PM (#5804643)
The worthlessness of these polls is increased by the awful choices.
Re:Poll: Full-time software engineers in Toronto, what's you... by viame on Saturday June 01, 2013 @12:36PM (#5804661)
Also it doesn't matter if you make 200k in Toronto or 100k or less in Waterloo. Living expanses in Toronto are almost double. Car insurance is almost triple, if you want to have one. Cities are 1 hour away from each other. And taxes ... :) I won't get into that.
Re:Poll: Full-time software engineers in Toronto, what's you... by potatolicious on Saturday June 01, 2013 @12:48PM (#5804733)
Yeah... having lived in both, I don't buy this. A person making $200K in Toronto is in a financially much, much, much better position that a $100K person in Waterloo.

The cost of living, having paid it myself, are nowhere close to double.

Re:Poll: Full-time software engineers in Toronto, what's you... by biot on Saturday June 01, 2013 @12:18PM (#5804574)
If someone makes exactly $100K, which do they choose? Also, you don't care to know the difference between $105K and $195K?
Re:Poll: Full-time software engineers in Toronto, what's you... by coherentpony on Saturday June 01, 2013 @01:26PM (#5804944)
I have an idea. "Full-time software engineers in Lapland, what's your annual salary?"
Re:Poll: Full-time software engineers in Toronto, what's you... by macphisto178 on Saturday June 01, 2013 @01:16PM (#5804865)
do junior front end dev's count as software engineers?