Re:What's up, bot? Google tries new Captcha method
by amix on Saturday April 18, 2009 @03:04PM
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I have implemented something similar called "Visual captcha", where the user has to pick the cat out from 6 randomized Flickr pictures. The code is freely available and should not be hard to integrate into your own projects. Read more on: http://amix.dk/blog/viewEntry/19338
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Re:What's up, bot? Google tries new Captcha method
by whughes on Saturday April 18, 2009 @10:13PM
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What is to stop a bot from just clicking randomly? A 1/6 chance of registering an account is good enough for botting purposes. That's the problem with these multiple-choice solutions. They simply aren't strong enough protection against a flood of tries.
Re:What's up, bot? Google tries new Captcha method
by liuliu on Saturday April 18, 2009 @04:08PM
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the real challenge is to collect enough pictures so that your database could not be broken by brute-force. Of course you can use Flickr's tag to identify it, but there are many mis-matches. Google's method solved this problem because image orientation is a heavily studied problem in computer vision which could take advantage of computer to help creating large visual database and then prune out the easy case for computer.
Re:What's up, bot? Google tries new Captcha method
by thorax on Saturday April 18, 2009 @04:48PM
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Flickr is harder, I'd use a different database.Doing image searches using existing online images is becoming easier (e.g. TinEye). An evil bot would just do image searches against flickr for each of those images and read/scan the tags there to be sure.
Re:What's up, bot? Google tries new Captcha method
by henning on Saturday April 18, 2009 @03:32PM
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Is that really effective? Just take some face detection code and have it learn what cat fur looks like instead.
Re:What's up, bot? Google tries new Captcha method
by amix on Saturday April 18, 2009 @05:33PM
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It's ok effective judging by my usages and I could just iterate over this solution if someone brute forced it or implemented a "cat fur detector" (which for my uses is pretty unrealistic).
Battling spammers is really a battle where you implement better protections and they implement better attacks. The conclusion so far has been that it isn't possible to check-mate them - - and it's very unlikely it will ever happen as a lot of spammers use "human bots"...
Using visual captcha is much more user friendly thought, so it's a win for the users.
Re:What's up, bot? Google tries new Captcha method
by stevenrace on Sunday April 19, 2009 @02:11AM
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There is actually a 'Google Tech Talk' on detecting cats (versus other shapes) from images:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w72_VwSj6A
Is it really that easy? I would think flagging for texture would be difficult, as it's
likely indistinguishable from noise (data, shadows, clothing..). Approximating shape/avg.
contour is likely easier than looking for fur patterns.
Any suggestions on books/papers/etc on image recognition?