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Re:Changes to "key" parts of Windows 8 are coming by ambiate on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @01:00PM (#5669221)
Just the amount of effort required to put the computer to sleep... ugh.

The instructions are:

1) (Sometimes) when you hover in a corner a menu will popup or press WIN + C.

2) Click settings (in the midst of 4(?) other options)

3) Click the power button.

4) Click the desired state.

Way too many paths in that state diagram for a typical user. For the common tasks, I expect to make two-three transitions with limited, unambiguous, options. Some of my workflow has transitioned to passing four to five states (usually in Metro at this point), back to desktop, to Chrome to locate help, back to the beginning of the state diagram to perform my original task.

Re:Changes to "key" parts of Windows 8 are coming by dangrossman on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @01:08PM (#5669284)
Why don't you just close the lid or press the power button on the computer?

http://i.imgur.com/allxzAQ.png

The reason this stuff is buried in a 2nd-level menu is that you're not supposed to need it. It's power-user stuff. Normal users are expected to either close the lid or press the power button, as they do on every other type of computer-y device now (phones, tablets, ereaders, etc). Software power buttons were a UX mistake this OS is correcting.

Re:Changes to "key" parts of Windows 8 are coming by ambiate on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @01:17PM (#5669339)
I was using my wife's experience as content. I have a different perception of how to attack problems. She knows there is a power button 'somewhere' in the desktop environment. She knows clicking the mouse twice turns on the computer. However, luckily, clicking the mouse twice does not turn off the computer. Our power button is not easily accessible or recognized from the restart button (case design issue).

On your edit, I believe 'power-user' is a strong term. It was only a decade ago when pressing my power button could mean corrupting documents. These ideas stick.

Locking the computer when I walk away at work is common work. Leaving an unlocked computer at a financial institution is a dangerous scenario. These are Excel wizards, data entry, and so on who might be baffled by the premise of anything that is not Excel or Word.

Hitting the power button is not as intuitive as closing a laptop lid. The power button is considered dangerous except for turning on the computer by most normal users.

Re:Changes to "key" parts of Windows 8 are coming by eurleif on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @01:50PM (#5669574)
Is some UI duplication really so terrible, especially on a desktop with a big screen? There are times when putting something where the user expects to find it should trump reducing clutter.
Re:Changes to "key" parts of Windows 8 are coming by yuhong on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @01:38PM (#5669495)
Be thankful that Vista and later requires ACPI to boot.
Re:Changes to "key" parts of Windows 8 are coming by RKearney on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @01:01PM (#5669230)
I don't have my Windows 8 box in front of me, but I believe this can be simplified by simply pressing Alt+F4 at the desktop.
Re:Changes to "key" parts of Windows 8 are coming by Payrovk on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @01:04PM (#5669257)
Very true, but the less tech-savy crowd does not often use key commands.
Re:Changes to "key" parts of Windows 8 are coming by freehunter on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @01:07PM (#5669273)
Does the less tech-savvy crowd often shut down their computers manually? Seems like they'd rather just close their laptop lid and let it do whatever it does.
Re:Changes to "key" parts of Windows 8 are coming by sixbrx on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @01:15PM (#5669330)
Not sure why you bring up laptops, some of us use Windows to do what it does best, on PC's with good graphics cards.
Re:Changes to "key" parts of Windows 8 are coming by freehunter on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @01:55PM (#5669599)
If you're on HN and using a desktop with a good graphics card, are you in the "less tech-savvy" crowd that would not be able to shut down a computer?
Re:Changes to "key" parts of Windows 8 are coming by ambiate on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @01:21PM (#5669369)
I once used a laptop for a two hour hackathon. The risk, price, performance, and power ratios of owning a desktop versus a laptop never quite added up to me.

My wife knows (from some prior experience) that unplugging the computer without shutting down can be dangerous. She also knows that putting the computer to sleep will lock the computer and not let friends/child on the desktop without asking for a password.

Re:Changes to "key" parts of Windows 8 are coming by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @01:38PM (#5669488)
I think it's the tech savvy crowd that doesn't bother to put their computers to sleep...just ctrl-alt-delete lock and go to lunch...like a phone it will (hopefully) goto sleep, and if it doesn't, not my power bill.

I guess if I had a desktop PC at home, life would be different, but I haven't had one of those since 2001.

Re:Changes to "key" parts of Windows 8 are coming by canthonytucci on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @02:29PM (#5669815)
Win+L will lock it, which is what I do when I stand up from my desk.

Or you can add a button to the start screen - http://www.howtogeek.com/77061/how-to-add-shutdown-restart-s...

Re:Changes to "key" parts of Windows 8 are coming by cooldeal on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @01:27PM (#5669424)
Windows + I is a good shortcut to get you directly to #3.