Re:Iron Ring
by ovoxo on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @12:30PM
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I'm a Software Engineer in Canada and I have an iron ring but that is because our Software Engineering programs (at least the ones that I know of) are accredited engineering programs - i.e. you must go through much of the same hell as other engineers.
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Canadian Engineering Accreditation Board is the authoritative body as far as I'm aware and in order to title yourself an "Engineer" you need to be a member of your provincial regulatory body since the title "Engineer" is a protected title under law. It isn't really enforced in any way but to call yourself a "Software Engineer" without having P.Eng. in Canada is technically illegal.
EDIT: Its pointed out in a different post that "Engineer" as a protected term is not concrete and varies province to province while "Professional Engineer" or "P.Eng." is however protected.
Software Engineers in Canada can be P.Eng if they choose to. What makes you think she/he's not?
Re:Iron Ring
by Zombieball on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @04:25PM
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This is correct. I graduated from UBC as a Software Engineer and have applied as an EIT with APEGBC. I haven't followed through to apply for P. Eng. status though as the process is a little more difficult for software folks.
You are supposed to submit work experience under supervision of another P. Eng. which are not very common place in our industry. I believe you can apply for exceptions to this rule though.
I personally haven't bothered following through with my P. Eng. status as I am not yet convinced it buys much in our profession (vs. the other fields of Engineering).
My thoughts are that I'm going to be in this industry for another 30 years if not longer so I want the title to hold and have when I need it. I work directly alongside P.Eng. engineers so its much easier as my work is a lot closer to electronic engineers than most software.
For someone not requiring it there are often provisions on each regulatory body's to get it down the line by providing cases of past work experience validated by a P.Eng. no matter when it happened.
I suppose I am lucky, my immediate supervisors are both P.Eng because of the nature of what we do. I agree though, I don't think it matters much in the software field. I don't have the required amount of work experience yet, but as a Computer Engineer working in and interested in the software field I am on the fence.
There are very many "Software Engineers" that are not actually Engineers though and many job postings looking for a Software Engineer don't actually care if you actually went to an Engineering school. I think that is what that person meant.
Wasn't talking about parent post but rather a more general dump of information. I'm a Canadian Software Engineer myself needing ~11months more experience before I get my P.Eng.
Re:Iron Ring
by throwaway1979 on Wednesday May 08, 2013 @08:15AM
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Which school?