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Re:Iron Ring by npsimons on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @11:34AM (#5668624)
Perhaps we should have a silicon ring for software engineers. And in case you are thinking "that would break too easily", well that's part of the point: to remind you that software can also be very easily broken, sometimes without even trying :)
Re:Iron Ring by ovoxo on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @12:30PM (#5669003)
I'm a Software Engineer in Canada and I have an iron ring but that is because our Software Engineering programs (at least the ones that I know of) are accredited engineering programs - i.e. you must go through much of the same hell as other engineers.
Re:Iron Ring by TheCapn on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @01:37PM (#5669479)
Canadian Engineering Accreditation Board is the authoritative body as far as I'm aware and in order to title yourself an "Engineer" you need to be a member of your provincial regulatory body since the title "Engineer" is a protected title under law. It isn't really enforced in any way but to call yourself a "Software Engineer" without having P.Eng. in Canada is technically illegal.

EDIT: Its pointed out in a different post that "Engineer" as a protected term is not concrete and varies province to province while "Professional Engineer" or "P.Eng." is however protected.

Re:Iron Ring by AYBABTME on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @04:12PM (#5670475)
Software Engineers in Canada can be P.Eng if they choose to. What makes you think she/he's not?
Re:Iron Ring by Zombieball on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @04:25PM (#5670546)
This is correct. I graduated from UBC as a Software Engineer and have applied as an EIT with APEGBC. I haven't followed through to apply for P. Eng. status though as the process is a little more difficult for software folks.

You are supposed to submit work experience under supervision of another P. Eng. which are not very common place in our industry. I believe you can apply for exceptions to this rule though.

I personally haven't bothered following through with my P. Eng. status as I am not yet convinced it buys much in our profession (vs. the other fields of Engineering).

Re:Iron Ring by TheCapn on Wednesday May 08, 2013 @10:21AM (#5674247)
My thoughts are that I'm going to be in this industry for another 30 years if not longer so I want the title to hold and have when I need it. I work directly alongside P.Eng. engineers so its much easier as my work is a lot closer to electronic engineers than most software.

For someone not requiring it there are often provisions on each regulatory body's to get it down the line by providing cases of past work experience validated by a P.Eng. no matter when it happened.

Re:Iron Ring by format on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @04:43PM (#5670651)
I suppose I am lucky, my immediate supervisors are both P.Eng because of the nature of what we do. I agree though, I don't think it matters much in the software field. I don't have the required amount of work experience yet, but as a Computer Engineer working in and interested in the software field I am on the fence.
Re:Iron Ring by format on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @04:37PM (#5670615)
There are very many "Software Engineers" that are not actually Engineers though and many job postings looking for a Software Engineer don't actually care if you actually went to an Engineering school. I think that is what that person meant.
Re:Iron Ring by TheCapn on Wednesday May 08, 2013 @10:19AM (#5674225)
Wasn't talking about parent post but rather a more general dump of information. I'm a Canadian Software Engineer myself needing ~11months more experience before I get my P.Eng.
Re:Iron Ring by throwaway1979 on Wednesday May 08, 2013 @08:15AM (#5673675)
Which school?
Re:Iron Ring by dreen on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @11:56AM (#5668768)
A friend of mine made a ring out of little transistors for his girlfriend. They're married now, she even wore it during the wedding.
Re:Iron Ring by claudius on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @12:07PM (#5668835)
Wouldn’t a rubber ring be more suitable for a software engineer? It also wouldn’t break that easily :)
Re:Iron Ring by npsimons on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @12:10PM (#5668861)
I can see it now: two rings, one rubber to represent user requirements, and the other silicon to represent the systems we have to implement those requirements in.
Re:Iron Ring by fghh45sdfhr3 on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @12:14PM (#5668889)
Glass ring encased in rubber, with a label claiming it is exactly as flexible and stretchable as a 100% rubber ring would be.
Re:Iron Ring by claudius on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @12:20PM (#5668926)
I am getting somewhat jealous now – people should make wearable cyclic particle accelerators or something like that for those hacking nature rather than mere computers :-)
Re:Iron Ring by saulrh on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @12:58PM (#5669194)
Diamond made out of isotopically pure carbon-14. Ring laser gyroscope. Negative-refractive-index metamaterial. A single giant LED. Nanolithography to produce structural coloration.

I've wanted a cool physics ring for quite a while.

Re:Iron Ring by claudius on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @01:17PM (#5669340)
It also should be able to reverse the polarity of the neutron flow. Clearly, that is a key requirement.
Re:Iron Ring by peripetylabs on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @01:53PM (#5669590)
A ring cut from a single crystal of silicon may be strong enough. Regardless, it would look very nice.